Italian Returns: Buttplate Check

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   If you have a U.S. Carbine imported from Italy or returned by Italy to the U.S. Army and sold thru CMP, please check the buttplate and let us know if yours has the buttplate depicted below. 

GI buttplates have 12 columns. These have 14.

Don't let the one in the center below fool ya. It was apparently taken at an angle I couldn't straighten. All rows and columns are there. Work from the bottom up...

Thanks much!

Jim 

Cross post on Italian returns
http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/italian-m1-carbine-info-and-requests_topic5539.html?FID=11&PR=3

Edited by sleeplessnashadow - Jun 28 2021 at 2:49am

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sleeplessnashadow Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: Nov 09 2015 Location: SoCal Status: Offline Points: 1253	Post Options Post Reply Quote sleeplessnashadow Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Italian Returns: Buttplate Check Posted: Jun 15 2021 at 8:09pm
	If you have a U.S. Carbine imported from Italy or returned by Italy to the U.S. Army and sold thru CMP, please check the buttplate and let us know if yours has the buttplate depicted below. GI buttplates have 12 columns. These have 14. Don't let the one in the center below fool ya. It was apparently taken at an angle I couldn't straighten. All rows and columns are there. Work from the bottom up... Thanks much! Jim Cross post on Italian returns http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/italian-m1-carbine-info-and-requests_topic5539.html?FID=11&PR=3 Edited by sleeplessnashadow - Jun 28 2021 at 2:49am

GK_BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Recruit Joined: Jun 17 2021 Location: FL Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote GK_BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Jun 19 2021 at 8:17pm
	My eye obviously hasn't been trained. What makes the two different? (I ask as I have one of the Italian MIDWAY imports.)

sleeplessnashadow Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: Nov 09 2015 Location: SoCal Status: Offline Points: 1253	Post Options Post Reply Quote sleeplessnashadow Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Jun 19 2021 at 9:08pm
	Sorry ... the one on the left is the one depicted on our web page as an unknown. The one on the right was found on a recent Italian return. They are the same. One standout is these have 14 columns of dots versus the normal 12 found on GI buttplates having rows and columns of dots. Buttplate Page Jim

Utah Bob Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Recruit Joined: Jun 19 2021 Location: Colorado Status: Offline Points: 20	Post Options Post Reply Quote Utah Bob Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Jun 20 2021 at 4:25pm
	So the top 2 pics are the unknown and the bottom two the GI?

tenOCEE Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Hard Corps Knows rear sights! Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: East Tenn Status: Offline Points: 1338	Post Options Post Reply Quote tenOCEE Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: Jun 20 2021 at 4:26pm
	Outside pics and inside pics of the same plates.
	My sig: Seen an IP or S'G'? Add it to my registry. We'll check consecutives. https://grandrapids.wufoo.com/forms/zzlnt0519k86xs/

GK_BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Recruit Joined: Jun 17 2021 Location: FL Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote GK_BEAR Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: Jun 20 2021 at 4:29pm
	Ah. Thank you. The one I just received from MIDWAY has 12 rows and looks like the 3rd one listed for Winchesters. This is not the buttplate you are looking for.

Utah Bob Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Recruit Joined: Jun 19 2021 Location: Colorado Status: Offline Points: 20	Post Options Post Reply Quote Utah Bob Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Jun 20 2021 at 4:30pm
	oh Okay I see it now. Duh! Old eyes.

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	My Midway has the 12 rows, but no other manufacturers marks. It is on an Underwood stock, on a Standard Products rifle...which seems to correlate with the information on the buttplates page.

Supercub Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Supercub Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Jun 27 2021 at 5:19pm
	Mine has the 14 dot as shown in the example and is one of the midways recent imports. Inland 1942 98xxx serial number.

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	https://i.imgur.com/fTJVQqq.jpg2 https://i.imgur.com/XdOWDae.jpg2

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	ok, it's been awhile...lol front and back.
	I am a rock, I’m am an Inland, and a rock feels no pain.

sleeplessnashadow Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: Nov 09 2015 Location: SoCal Status: Offline Points: 1253	Post Options Post Reply Quote sleeplessnashadow Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Jun 28 2021 at 2:47am
	SuperCub. It's a match. I updated the original post at the top of the page... THANK YOU... Jim