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Italian Returns: Buttplate Check

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Topic: Italian Returns: Buttplate Check
Posted By: sleeplessnashadow
Subject: Italian Returns: Buttplate Check
Date Posted: Jun 15 2021 at 8:09pm
If you have a U.S. Carbine imported from Italy or returned by Italy to the U.S. Army and sold thru CMP, please check the buttplate and let us know if yours has the buttplate depicted below.

GI buttplates have 12 columns. These have 14.



Don't let the one in the center below fool ya. It was apparently taken at an angle I couldn't straighten. All rows and columns are there. Work from the bottom up...



Thanks much!

Jim

Cross post on Italian returns
http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/italian-m1-carbine-info-and-requests_topic5539.html?FID=11&PR=3" rel="nofollow - http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/italian-m1-carbine-info-and-requests_topic5539.html?FID=11&PR=3



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Posted By: GK_BEAR
Date Posted: Jun 19 2021 at 8:17pm
My eye obviously hasn't been trained.  What makes the two different?  (I ask as I have one of the Italian MIDWAY imports.)


Posted By: sleeplessnashadow
Date Posted: Jun 19 2021 at 9:08pm
Sorry ... the one on the left is the one depicted on our web page as an unknown. The one on the right was found on a recent Italian return.

They are the same.

One standout is these have 14 columns of dots versus the normal 12 found on GI buttplates having rows and columns of dots.

http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/buttplates.html" rel="nofollow - Buttplate Page

Jim


Posted By: Utah Bob
Date Posted: Jun 20 2021 at 4:25pm
So the top 2 pics are the unknown and the bottom two the GI?


Posted By: tenOCEE
Date Posted: Jun 20 2021 at 4:26pm
Outside pics and inside pics of the same plates.


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Posted By: GK_BEAR
Date Posted: Jun 20 2021 at 4:29pm
Ah.  Thank you.  The one I just received from MIDWAY has 12 rows and looks like the 3rd one listed for Winchesters.

This is not the buttplate you are looking for.


Posted By: Utah Bob
Date Posted: Jun 20 2021 at 4:30pm
oh Okay I see it now. Duh! Old eyes.SleepyConfused


Posted By: 81NavyOS
Date Posted: Jun 27 2021 at 10:01am
My Midway has the 12 rows, but no other manufacturers marks.  It is on an Underwood stock, on a Standard Products rifle...which seems to correlate with the information on the buttplates page.



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Jun 27 2021 at 5:19pm
Mine has the 14 dot as shown in the example and is one of the midways recent imports. Inland 1942 98xxx serial number.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Jun 28 2021 at 12:33am
https://i.imgur.com/fTJVQqq.jpg2
https://i.imgur.com/XdOWDae.jpg2



Posted By: Supercub
Date Posted: Jun 28 2021 at 1:29am
ok, it's been awhile...lol  front and back. 




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Posted By: sleeplessnashadow
Date Posted: Jun 28 2021 at 2:47am
SuperCub. It's a match. I updated the original post at the top of the page...

THANK YOU...

Jim



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