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Skippy
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Topic: Standard Products Bolt StampPosted: Feb 02 2026 at 1:59pm |
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Hello, I am filling out a datasheet for a Standard Products M1 Carbine and had a question about a bolt stamping. Would you please let me know if this flat bolt is marked S6 or S9?
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W5USMC
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Posted: Feb 02 2026 at 2:31pm |
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Anyone's guess, unfortunately SP's bolt markings can be all over the place, horizontal, vertical, right side up, upside down. To make it more confusing the serial# ranges that both numbers were used overlap. Personally, I would go with S6.
Maybe someone else can say for sure.
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New2brass
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Posted: Feb 02 2026 at 5:11pm |
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Well this is tough as CCNL 366-6 shows an illustration of the number 12 and a S in eight possibilities. This, in part may have been a way to bring awareness for better reporting. With that the majority of low number bolts I have observed is the number include 4, 5, 11 (serif) 13, 12 (photo in NL) 14, 15, 19, which undoubtedly are all upright and over the S then there is a gap to S29 which horizontal on the large lug then S over 30 and then in the 40s I see horizontal variations with the S possibly being before or after the number. So I am thinking it is actually 9 over S Maybe we need to ask the members to share pictures of the SP bolts they have
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Skippy
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Posted: Feb 02 2026 at 10:06pm |
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I found some images of Standard Products bolts on-line, one an S 19 and the other S 28. Based on these photos my bolt is an S 9, which is unfortunate because based on CCNL # 366 the S 9 bolt is probably not correct for my 2,116,xxx Standard Products carbine.
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Posted: Feb 03 2026 at 12:02am |
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This one is currently listed on ebay, seller is calling it a 6S.
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Posted: Feb 03 2026 at 9:17am |
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Well earlier number must make it more valuable But were they used in number order? CCNL 366-5 as part of the StaPro update lists the bolts against serial numbers on original appearing Sta Pro carbines. Keep in mind this is just observed, and if you have an original Sta Pro carbine I would caution to not swap anything if it appears out of place. So the list is in earliest serial number order, but there is overlap. Early on it seems the numbers are out of order and with progressing there is still numbers out of order but a general progression. Bolt code 6 shows 2023321 - 2224070. That is a huge swath of numbers Bolt code 9 shows 2042644 - 20537xx It may be how the data sheet was filled out, leaving the question, was it really a 6 or a 9. also is the high number a case of first in, last out as by the 222 range the shape of the lug changed a bit on Sta Pro bolts. If you look carefully at the numbers you will see many overlaps and in the OPs case of serial number 2116xxx that there is a bunch of numbers on bolts that are possible. Maybe WB has some incite on bolt issues or maybe even receivers being used out of order.
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Skippy
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Posted: Feb 03 2026 at 10:14am |
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Thank you Dan and Wayne for the responses. I am not going to worry about the bolt anymore. These Standard Products carbines are quite the puzzle. :-) Thanks again, Skippy
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painter777
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Posted: Feb 03 2026 at 11:07am |
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My understanding from a long ago discussion with Mr Ricca was that when decoding Stan Pro bolts like the one Skippy has posted its read with the tail of the firing pin on the table.
Making this one a 9S. He often described Stan bolts by number first then the S. FWIW, Ch-P777
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