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M1 with no recoil plate

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    Posted: Jul 25 2025 at 4:43pm
I have a sportier M1 with no markings. It is very well made but lacks a recoil plate and doesn’t have an integrated section where one would be.  
I am trying to identify the maker.
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Originally posted by Jabberwalky Jabberwalky wrote:

I have a sportier M1 with no markings. It is very well made but lacks a recoil plate and doesn’t have an integrated section where one would be.  
I am trying to identify the maker.


A couple of pictures would help.  Closeup of the receiver area and whole rifle.  There should be some kind of markings somewhere on it unless someone removed all of them.  
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Is there a tab that comes off the back of the receiver that a screw goes through to attach to the stock?

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I just read something on that type of receiver lately but I can't remember where. They were said to be more accurate, but that they had a pronounced tendency to crack the stocks at the screw hole. 
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Pretty sure there was a receiver like this in the Ruth collection with some details. I remember seeing some information on it elsewhere also but don’t recall where.
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I did not want to get off topic until the OP replied

the receiver shown is from the commercial pages 

We know nothing about these receivers or its manufacturer, so looking for input should anyone have information.

@Smokpole, maybe you were reading about (from memory) Standard Products ordnance inspector or worker that obtained permission to experiment on a carbine where he welded a recoil plate to the receiver to increase accuracy? It may have had something to do with cracking?
Separately, the stocks were prone to cracking in the recoil plate area. The solution was to increase the gap around the plate and beef up where the recoil plate sits to prevent cracking
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I wonder if sleeving the screw like on Mauser military rifles would have solved the cracking problem.

I've not seen this type receiver before, but wouldn't mind playing with it.  
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It would disrupt the take-down a bit but we don’t have to do that very often. If I had one or were to acquire one, I’d be looking for one of those polymer stocks that do show up now and then.
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No, Dan. That wasn't it. I saw it in some magazine that I was browsing thru recently, It was at our local library. I just don't remember which magazine.

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Plainfield experimented with it. See section IV of the Plainfield pages. I’ll add a picture.





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Floyd! You hit it. It was one of those firearms rags that has all kinds of misc. articles. It was a poorly written article on the development and restoration of the M1 Carbine, but there was a picture of one such receiver.
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