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    Posted: Feb 21 2025 at 1:30pm
Hi guys!
I'm a new member who has been lurking around mostly.  This is my second post and many of you probably saw my first post in reference to the Inland M1a1 I am currently in possession of (from my Dad) http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/inland-m1a1_topic7386.html

I am a former Marine 2171 (Electro-Optics Tech) located in Wisconsin who has always had an affinity for firearms of all types.  I do not have an extensive collection but I have had, and still have, some pretty decent stuff.  Whether it be the weapon itself, or the weapon's story/history, there's often more than meets the eye. 

While I have always loved the military weapons old and new, I also love the many newer offerings that may fit applications better... so I have hunting, shooting, defense, and history in my current collection with some of my past pieces fitting into those areas also.  
Most recently I got these three (historical / storied) pieces from my Dad, along with a few of his hunting guns.
- The M1a1
- A Winchester 1894 (1915 mfg) Saddle Ring Carbine from Dad that his grandmother had to protect the homestead from Pancho Villa and his gang when they lived in the Gadsden Purchase (SouthWest territories).
- A Smith & Wesson Model 10? (1912-1915 mfg) Military and Police that Dad's grandfather had for when he was travelling the territories setting up mining camps.

I also had an M-14s (Polytech) at one point that I sent to Tim at Warbirds for the full GI conversion and re-did a few stocks for etc... it was awesome but eventually went to a Vietnam vet that was looking for one.  An additional interesting sidenote of that rifle was that I got it in trade (for a Sig P220 Sport) in the box, from Phil Schreier who was Senior Curator with the NRA Museum (currently the Director of NRA Museums) so I felt that made it a little bit cooler.

Anyways...  I have really been enjoying the vast knowledge here and the awesome feedback and support I got about the carbine.

Thanks, and keep up the great work!
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Welcome to the site Troy from the other side of Lake Michigan. 
Thank You for your service Thumbs Up

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welcome! Good to see you back on here. Thank you for your service! I have never served but I do know that once a Marine always a Marine. In my opinion there's no such thing as a former Marine haha. That is very cool to still have a firearm that was used in your family to protect themselves from Pancho Villa! We certainly live in the best country in the world to have the freedom to be able to keep history such as that. And of course that freedom is owed to you and countless others just like you who have served and are serving our wonderful country. Thanks again for your service
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Welcome to the forum Devil Dog. Had the pleasure of working with some really great Optics Techs when I was deployed as a MSSG Maintenance Officer. They definitely stayed busy not only repairing the MEU's optics but also repairing all of the embarked SEAL Teams stuff. 
BTW that is a great looking M1A1 that you have.
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Originally posted by TK XIV TK XIV wrote:

- A Smith & Wesson Model 10? (1912-1915 mfg) Military and Police that Dad's grandfather had for when he was travelling the territories setting up mining camps.


Troy, Welcome.
If you post up some photos of the S&W I'm sure we can help narrow down what you got there.  Model numbers began in the 1950s. Open the cylinder and look where the crane (aka yoke) pivots away from the frame.   On an early model, there will be some assembly numbers there but no Mod #.
 
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Welcome to the forum from a fellow Wisconsinite! Enjoyed the pictures of your M1A1 thanks for sharing.
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Originally posted by Matt_X Matt_X wrote:

Troy, Welcome.
If you post up some photos of the S&W I'm sure we can help narrow down what you got there.  Model numbers began in the 1950s. Open the cylinder and look where the crane (aka yoke) pivots away from the frame.   On an early model, there will be some assembly numbers there but no Mod #.
 
This thing needs a serious cleaning, it's almost like it had been greased... You can see that it has travelled and seen some things.
I believe the numbers you were referring to are "265".  One thing I like seeing is how the frame, cylinder and barrel all have the serial number stamped (which makes sense). 






Chambered in "38 S&W Special Ctg"
If you can tell me anything more about this revolver I would sure love to hear it.
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Here's what I see and can relate from the notes I've made (mostly from S&W Collectors forum people who seem to be knowledgeable)

The high trigger spur makes it hard to see the sights in double action (in my experience) and were used with the long action until after WW2. 

Seeing no letter with the serial, we can be pretty sure it was made before 1940

The stocks have a recessed gold washed brass medallion used from the 1911 - 1920.
Inside the stocks, if original to the revolver, one should be marked with the serial number.

There's several different names used, but in 1905 it was called Model of 1905 until starting in 1915 S&W sold them as Military and Police.  Collectors have generally adopted a different naming system...  So you have a Model of 1905 Change 1 2 3 or 4.  Which change you have I am not sure but based on the stocks I'm guessing 4th change.

With the barrel stamped .38 S&W Spl. it was chambered for what we simply call .38 Spl.    They also made these in the older .38 S&W and for the Brits in .38-200 cartridge.

265 is an assembly number.  You may find it elsewhere.
Serial number may also be found on the back of the cylinder and under the barrel.

The extra large knurled tip of the extractor rod is  seperate part from the rod.  Also a pre-WW2 characteristic.

I think it looks great. 
If you feel you have to open it for cleaning old - dried lube, use close fitting  screwdriver tips.  Every collector looks for buggered screw slots as a sign of inexperienced attempts to work on the insides.  The plate is press fit.  Do not pry.  Remove the stocks and tap the frame with a wood or other soft mallet, wood dowl or similar.  The vibration will pop the plate.

My slightly later "victory" (1940s V serial number)  hits the center of a B-8 using 158 gr LRN at 25 yards using a "6 o'clock hold".  Lighter bullets seem to hit closer to point of aim.

PS. The S&W Historical Association will, for members or a fee, do some research if you want a letter stating who the gun was originally shipped to (retailer) and if it came back or service.
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Thank you SO much Matt.
You really gave me a nice summary with reference which helps me to know a little more about the gun.
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