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    Posted: Jul 14 2024 at 4:07pm
I am  the  process  for  buying a  Plainfield m2. 
When did they start to blue the Barrels. My serial # is  2562 A.
Would anyone  no what  year  it was  built. I am  in my 2nd month  for  my license.  Thanks Wally

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Welcome to the forum, have you read the info in the link below?
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yes I  have.  It doesn't  answer my question  about  build dater and when and why did they  blue the barrels.
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did you read all the pages?
There are page links to other pages. Top and bottom of each page


Edited by New2brass - Jul 14 2024 at 9:28pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote New2brass Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 15 2024 at 4:19pm
Now that I am in front of a computer,
The link that Wayne provided:
Chart at top shows serial numbers with a prefix and those without a prefix. Yours has a suffix.

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"Amongst the first 1500 numerical serial numbers the letter A was sometimes added after the numbers and in at least one instance the letter P was observed instead of the A. Of the 43 carbines recorded between 001 and 1500, 27 have the A, 1 has the P, and 15 have no letter after the numbers. The meaning of this A is not known but of the 27 that have the A, 18 of these are known to have been sold to a law enforcement agency. This practice was discontinued after s/n 1500."

this establishes that your carbine falls within the 1965-1978 range, but being past 1500A  it may not have been law enforcement, or it may mean the suffix stopped beyond 1500? We will get some clarification on this.

Part III page shows the different models, It seems Satin Blued was the norm, and there was also chrome and blued (no satin)

As to the M2 carbines
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Plainfield M2 Carbines

Plainfield produced both an M2 carbine and an M2 carbine kit for converting the carbine to selective fire. These carbines were sold to law enforcement agencies, but also military forces of other nations in Third World countries."

So interesting to find out if yours was a kit or delivered with parts. Due to the GCA68, your paperwork may show if plainfield as produced. or if someone put on a kit. There may also be a date of first registration, if so that should narrow down when it was made.


Some quick math I would say your carbine was closer to the 1965 date, but that is just a guesss

Thinking about it, is the front ring marked M2?




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Thank you all for your answers.  When  do you  think 256x A was produced. 

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It has a M2 on the  receiver. It has a type 3 barrel  band  on it with a metal  handgaurd and a light  color gloss stock.

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Have the receiver Xray'd for micro stress fractures. Probably past Police issue M2, could have been rode a lot of miles... a precautionary tale...
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Wally,

My apologies for not responding here sooner. I'm the researcher and author of M1CarbinesInc.com. But I don't deserve the credit for all that appears there as many different people have contributed bits and pieces of information.

It would help to know a few more things in addition to the serial number to estimate when it was manufactured and assembled. I realize a a photo of the receiver markings may not be available but what the markings are, how they were applied, where, their size, font, etc all help to narrow and confirm things.

Time wise, Plainfield was pretty consistent with the application of their serial numbers but inconsistent with the addition of the letter A suffix. Use of the letter A after the s/n started when they switched from using a letter prefix s/n (i.e. D105, Z999) to just the number (i.e. 0123, 0456). This is also when they first started marking receivers M2 when they were assembled as such. The A was added to some M2 marked receivers but not anywhere close to all. The A suffix hasn't turned up on a Plainfield receiver marked M1. Almost as if there was one person with an A stamp that others didn't have or didn't use if they did.

Yours is the highest s/n with the added A I've seen. So it was only done on some of the first 2600 or so that were assembled as M2's. The highest s/n on a Plainfield M2 marked receiver I've seen so far is in the 3700 numbers. All after are marked M1.

Your s/n alone, if the receiver was finished and assembled into a carbine in the normal time frames, would have been late 1965 or early 1966.

Plainfield workmanship quality, appearance wise, varied over the 15 years or so they made carbines. But none I'm aware of were unsafe when they were sold. Their receivers have held up over time but every part on every gun has a lifespan. Plainfield receivers that haven't held up, that I've seen, failed due to a headspace problem unrelated to Plainfield or anything they did.

Hope this helps.

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Thank you  Jim, 

I have seen my new one and looks very in.
 good shape. This is  my second  Plainfield m2 , that serial number  was 369A and was almost all Inland parts. 
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Hi Jim, I also  want to add  that my  receiver  doesn't have  a oval cutout.  It also have a blue  barrel.  The type 3 band, along  with  a metal  handgaurd , PMC type  rear sight and  a rubber  buttplate. I agree with  you  on the 1965-66 date.  I am curious about  the serial number  without the  oval cut missing.
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