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    Posted: Feb 20 2025 at 2:15pm
Has anyone seen a receiver dimpled like the one pictured below. If so, please report.


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I've never seen a dimple on the rear of a receiver, but I wonder - is there raised metal around the circumference of the "crater?"

If so, I'm reminded of an article in CC NL 335-10, where STD PRO's Ellis Lenz reported "poor fit of the recoil plate to the rear of the receiver" affecting the consistency of carbine accuracy. That dimple could be an attempt to tighten up that fit.

Decades ago, I used a punch to "crater" a recoil plate to tighten the fit, but results were inconclusive. In hindsight, my "craters" weren't deep enough - didn't raise sufficient metal to tighten the fit.   Another collector actually cracked a recoil plate doing this, but I don't remember if it was a milled or a postwar cast recoil plate.

Another shooter used a portion of a matchbook cover between the recoil plate and the recoil lug of the receiver to tighten the fit.

Because I was shooting in the Carbine Matches at Camp Perry, I didn't want to violate the "as issued" requirement for eligible carbines, so I purchased a handful of recoil plates and used the one that had the tightest fit...although the "lock up" wasn't as tight as I would've preferred....Is that a good excuse for a poor score? :-)

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Wayne,
I don't know what the Punch mark is for or from. But have a S'G' 1,823.xxx that this area had a series of small bumps that made a tight fit of the Plate impossible. It also had a type of Milling chatter across it. I ended up fine filing the area until I had a tight (No Space) fit with the Plate.

I just tried my 1st ever picture crop/sizing of a old wear pattern picture on my WRA 30,621 which wasn't near as bad as the S'G' for the small bumps and had none of of the Milling Chatter. But hopefully you can see the couple Bumps on it that covered the S'G'.

Do you think there might have been one of these on there that they just took a Punch to?
IDK, Just asking.




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Here is another view, looks like a larger than "punch" size dimple. I do not believe it was intentionally done to tighten the recoil plate/receiver fit.

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Might have been a big bump that some one removed with a light touch of a drill bit or they wanted to check the depth of a pit to determine if the part needed to be rejected.
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For reference, it is a SG subcontracted Inland receiver.  The dimple is very shallow and perfectly centered. 
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I wonder if it could be some kind of hardness test punch mark. Don't know why they would perfectly center it though just to test hardness. Does the matching edge on the recoil plate look different or anything?

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Thinking like a Ham handed Smith or Bubba dealing with a tight fitting or stuck Trigger Housing.

Gives rear of Receiver a solid tap on Pin with small Ball Peen, maybe using Hammer or Trigger Housing Pin to clear top of Tang.

Why the Censored do you guys do this to us ?

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Additional pictures of DogDoc's dimpled receiver.








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is it just the lighting or is there finish down in the bottom of that dimple? If the carbine retains its original finish, then that would suggest the mark was made early rather than a bubba. But if it's been refinished who knows. If we can determine if the carbine has its original finish, that would at least give us an idea of when the odd mark was put on there. I could be wrong but I would suspect if it's original finish and is present in the bottom of that dimple, then the dimple would be from some kind of anomaly from the manufacturing process
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It does appear to have the original parkerization in the dimple. I’m pretty sure it was there from production. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jond41403 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb 23 2025 at 1:11am
well dogdoc, I'm definitely no expert, I'm just throwing my thoughts out there. we will have to wait till the experts can verify your finish is in fact original. Even if it is, I may still be wrong haha
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