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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Car Wash Chris Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar 29 2016 at 12:30pm
Well I thought the butt plate was late Winchester but now leaning toward a NPM and could still be wrong. LOL   Anyhow the letters WRA IMO have been added.
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Marlin Made Stocks for Underwood with the M-U marking. According to War baby who sites the Rifle in America by p. Sharpe  Marlin also produced carbine triggers and  hammers.
With that it does not say M1 carbine.
 
 
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THE ONLY WAY I GOT THE W.R.A. TO SHOW WAS TO TAKE THE PIC. THRU A MAGNIFING GLASS. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN A GREAT HELP. I HAVE HAD THIS STOCK FOR OVER 20 YEARS & ALWAYS WONDERED ABOUT IT...THANKS RON
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FORGOT TO MENTION THAT I KNEW & HAVE A FEW M-U HAND GUARDS BUT DIDN'T KNOW MARLIN MADE STOCKS..RON
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote New2brass Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar 29 2016 at 1:55pm
I would think you would get a better picture if you let the camera do the work without a magnifying lens to confuse it.
What the eye sees and the camera sees can vary wildly. Once you upload a picture and enlarge it you get to see what the picture really looks like.
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Really think the WRA is homework on someones part. 
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What do you guys think about this potbelly ... Winchester ?
http://s1176.photobucket.com/user/rcycles45/library/m2%20winchester
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Scott, Long or short channel ? That's the first pot belly I have seen with a W in the sling well. HUUUUMMMM ?
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Chris it has a long channel I added some pics of the channel . I've heard People say that Winchester didn't make an M2 Potbelly stock . Don't Know what to make of this one , sure looks like a Winchester W to me . ?? Who Knows ???
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Winchester made M2 stocks.  They were long channel with the typical WRA flat bottom profile.  Also: the rear inletting detail was slightly different than non M2 WRA stocks. There has been some discussion whether or nor not Winchester used some M2 stocks on non m2 production. I believe they did. Winchester used  m2 trigger housings and slides in m1 production.  I have owned a 7.2 and a 6.5 with original m2 stocks.  IMHO and based on my observations. Still have never seen what I believe is an original pot belly M2 WRA stock.    Beer Martin
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Originally posted by Rcycles45 Rcycles45 wrote:

Chris it has a long channel I added some pics of the channel . I've heard People say that Winchester didn't make an M2 Potbelly stock . Don't Know what to make of this one , sure looks like a Winchester W to me . ?? Who Knows ???


I sure wish I knew more, I just gave a good friend one I had that was similar to your's. Flat bottom, pot belly, long channel, but mine had a flaming bomb in the sling well with a ordnance wheel the right side of stock, I posted 30 pictures on the Mil Surplus site and no one knew what it was   

My Marlin has both a M and a flaming bomb but is a short channel pot belly. Don't know what to tell you on your's, except it looks like it would make a nice M2 stock for someone.
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Here is a CMP auction listing, where they describe the stock as being a pot belly W marked stock. They don't say Winchester ??

http://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail.asp?id=3418

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I have seen CMP auctions where whomever lists it either has bad information or repeats the marking in the adjoining piece.
The example here states <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">W potbelly stock, with a W 2 rivet handguard.
What is nice is they have large pictures you can download by right clicking. I do not see a W anywhere in sling well. It does appear to be a slight pot belly with no cut out. I have heard there are 3 types of pot belly stocks in relation to the belly.
 
What is interesting is the CC.  Does anyone know who's it is?
 
 
Originally posted by Car Wash Chris Car Wash Chris wrote:

Here is a CMP auction listing, where they describe the stock as being a pot belly W marked stock. They don't say Winchester ??

http://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail.asp?id=3418


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Lack of trunion. Bottom of cannons.
I am guessing not Winchester
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Just looked at auction pictures again. Without a W in my mind. I see S HB at bottom of slingwell.
What say you?
I have also seen those stocks narrow at TH making them appear to be a slight  pot belly.
 
That cartouche would be more consistent a SP CC


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Originally posted by New2brass New2brass wrote:


Just looked at auction pictures again. Without a W in my mind. I see S HB at bottom of slingwell.
What say you?
I have also seen those stocks narrow at TH making them appear to be a slight  pot belly.
 
That cartouche would be more consistent a SP CC




Makes sense ! Look again it has a SP marked butt plate. S-S3
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It does appear to have a S-HB in the slingwell. Whatever it is, it's not a Winchester. The angle of the slingwell cut is all wrong.
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