Welded Receivers????

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   It's amusing to me how some things are seriously condemned in some circles and are openly displayed as a trophy in others.

Out the gate...I do not want and would never entertain the idea of owning any firearm that has been welded together from donor-pieces. I see de-milled receivers for sale all the time and supposed people want them as paperweights. I am obviously wrong. I recently returned to the M14 world after a long absence. A going-thing seems to be cutting the heel from a perfectly good (even forged) receiver and welding on a de-milled authentic GI heel paying as much as $800 as the going-rate to destroy and glue a gun back together and even waiting for months to get it done.

I have seen pictures of those proudly showing off their receiver re-welds and the work is very obvious. It's like the vendor does not even try to hide it. Makes me wonder if I should grab a de-milled GI carbine receiver and weld it on one of my commercial carbines. Maybe I will cut the back-half off my Ford F150 and graft-on a 57 Chevy rear end.  I realize the government de-milled every M14 they could get their hands on many years ago and the vast majority of the M1 Carbines just got misplaced. I suppose the only way you can get close to having an authentic M14 is to weld one up, if one is that desperate. I did not pay what I paid for an M14 with forged parts just to pay half as much again to have it chopped-up and cross-bred. 

Different strokes for different folks.

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floydthecat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Hard Corps Joined: Oct 13 2016 Location: Mississippi Status: Offline Points: 2307	Post Options Post Reply Quote floydthecat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Welded Receivers???? Posted: Mar 16 2019 at 6:22pm
	It's amusing to me how some things are seriously condemned in some circles and are openly displayed as a trophy in others. Out the gate...I do not want and would never entertain the idea of owning any firearm that has been welded together from donor-pieces. I see de-milled receivers for sale all the time and supposed people want them as paperweights. I am obviously wrong. I recently returned to the M14 world after a long absence. A going-thing seems to be cutting the heel from a perfectly good (even forged) receiver and welding on a de-milled authentic GI heel paying as much as $800 as the going-rate to destroy and glue a gun back together and even waiting for months to get it done. I have seen pictures of those proudly showing off their receiver re-welds and the work is very obvious. It's like the vendor does not even try to hide it. Makes me wonder if I should grab a de-milled GI carbine receiver and weld it on one of my commercial carbines. Maybe I will cut the back-half off my Ford F150 and graft-on a 57 Chevy rear end. I realize the government de-milled every M14 they could get their hands on many years ago and the vast majority of the M1 Carbines just got misplaced. I suppose the only way you can get close to having an authentic M14 is to weld one up, if one is that desperate. I did not pay what I paid for an M14 with forged parts just to pay half as much again to have it chopped-up and cross-bred. Different strokes for different folks.

BER911 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grunt Joined: Aug 04 2018 Location: Central VA Status: Offline Points: 314	Post Options Post Reply Quote BER911 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Mar 17 2019 at 6:00am
	Floydthecat and I are on the same page. It boggles my mind to think of taking perfectly good weapon and cut it up to weld in some other parts from another cut up weapon. I guess there are situations where welding makes sense, but I don't get it. Originality is worth more to me than something put together from pieces and parts.
	Semper Fi, Bruce

New2brass Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Dan Pinto, How Can I help Joined: Nov 29 2015 Location: CCC Status: Offline Points: 5527	Post Options Post Reply Quote New2brass Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Mar 17 2019 at 7:51am
	Is the heel different or does it have markings and or serial number?
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tenOCEE Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Hard Corps Knows rear sights! Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: East Tenn Status: Offline Points: 1338	Post Options Post Reply Quote tenOCEE Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Mar 17 2019 at 8:21am
	Some say WINCHESTER.

kar6666 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Recruit Joined: Jan 05 2016 Location: California, Mo Status: Offline Points: 54	Post Options Post Reply Quote kar6666 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Mar 17 2019 at 9:50am
	My first M1 Garand was welded receiver that was just about all you could find in the 70s. I didn't know when I bought it what it was. I had seen others but they were easy to see whoever did this one did a really neat job. The only place it showed was in the op-rod slot and not real well in a dark gunshow. It was years before I was sure it was welded. I shot it for years and with about any 30-06 ammo that I found back then we didn't know we should only shoot 150gr military grade ammo in our M1s. It ran flawlessly and was very accurate. Later on I discovered it also had one of the the welded 1903A3 barrels also. After I found that out I quit shooting it. Later I changed the barrel, but still never shot much anymore. Later I gave it to a gunsmith friend who had the parts and wanted to put together a shooter. He was looking for a welded receiver. I put the barrel on it, his barrel not the welded one. He was very happy with it and said it shot great. But I still wouldn't cut up a good receiver just to change the name.

floydthecat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Hard Corps Joined: Oct 13 2016 Location: Mississippi Status: Offline Points: 2307	Post Options Post Reply Quote floydthecat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Mar 17 2019 at 9:56am
	The rear section of a de-milled USGI receiver complete with roll marks (including sn) are grafted onto the front section of the receiver to be altered. The actual junction of the joining varies. Pictures of the ones I’ve seen are “married” just in front of the rear sight and do cut-thru the bolt and operating slide channels. The welds on the ones I’ve seen are very obvious. The modified weapon then bears the original roll-mark and sn of the donor. One sends the receiver (or barrelled action) along with his de-milled donor section along with the bolt he intends to use to the vendor that will perform the modification.