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Finface
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Topic: Collectable M-1 Carbine/Fulton-Armory Restoration?Posted: Jan 30 2026 at 1:03pm |
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Hypothetically speaking...because I really don't know yet if the M-1 Carbine I was recently gifted is a collectible...what would happen to its value to collectors if I sent it to Fulton-Armory for "restoration"?
What kind of restoration? On Fulton's website I see three levels of gunsmithing offered by Fulton's armorers. You can send a carbine in for a Comprehensive Technical Inspection for $120. For me that would entail buying their shipping box for $50, which includes their cost of shipping the empty box to me. And then, I think, me paying my local FFL (who owns a gun store) his FFL handling fee of $30 to ship to Fulton, and then again $30 to receive it back, so $60. And Fulton must have a shipping fee to ship the rifle to me once their work is complete - I'll guess $30. Probably $140 transportation costs, plus initial inspection fee, equals $260 before any possibly needed repair work. How many 3-44 inland Division carbines are not going to need some repair work? The below is pasted in verbatim from Fulton's website. "Comprehensive Technical Inspection ($120) From there, we’ll present you with options tailored to your needs, such as:
This approach allows you to pick and choose the services that align with your goals, ensuring you receive exactly what you want without unnecessary extras. Our armorer will provide you with a detailed quote over the phone, so you’ll know exactly what to expect in terms of services and pricing. Concierge Shipping Options You can order a shipping container directly from this website. This provides you a well-protected box designed specifically for these services. Alternatively, if you already have an appropriate shipping container (please avoid hard cases), you can send your rifle along with the attached form for inspection. We will conduct the Technical Inspection automatically when your rifle reaches the front of the queue, ensuring a streamlined process for your convenience. The shipping container includes instructions and everything required to ship your rifle for the exception of the label. Restoration Packages For those looking for a more comprehensive overhaul, our Total Refresh Package (starting at $600) and Comprehensive Inspection and Restoration Package (starting at $1,225.00) are excellent options. These packages cover everything from technical inspections to refinishing, ensuring your rifle looks and functions like new. Each package is customizable, allowing you to add or remove services based on your preferences." I haven't spoken with anyone at Fulton yet to flesh out either of these Restoration Packages. For someone wanting a reliable and safe shooting M-1 Carbine then spending money to reduce the likelihood of their rifle blowing up in their face, and, hopefully...not experiencing FTF's, seems wise.But...what would doing any of the three offered levels, from just inspecting and then calibrating (with maybe some part replacements) to giving Fulton full rein to restore, do to the collectibility value of my hypothetically valuable M-1? Thanks in advance for any thoughts. Right now after an abbreviated range session my carbine's reliability is dog squeeze. It jammed with two magazines after 1-3 shots. So I can either keep it as is, which looks to me like a collectible rifle, and not shoot it, or, I could send it to Fulton (or perhaps a local gunsmith and save all the transportation costs, but what quality compared to the experts at Fulton?) and get back a good shooter. Repairs/Restoration which might cost as much as the worth of the rifle left as is? Or, invest with that Nigerian Prince and hope to get back enough money to buy a new Fulton Armory M-1 as a shooter? I like their M-3 Scout, but whichever version of the 7 available, it would cost pretty much $3,000.
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jkingrph
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Posted: Feb 19 2026 at 10:36am |
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You might check with Fulton on shipping requirements. Several years ago I had to send a Darne shotgun (French made sliding breech double barrel) to gunsmith who specializes in them for some work. I simply boxed it well and sent it by USPS, insured, and received it back the same way, no FFL required for shipping to and receiving back a long gun via USPS.
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Finface
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Posted: Feb 19 2026 at 10:58am |
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Thanks, jkingrph.
I'm undecided on what to do with the carbine. Perhaps others will post their thoughts on my OP question about how sending it to Fulton Armory, if it is somewhat valuable to collectors, would impact its value. I also have a local gunsmith I might pursue. |
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New2brass
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Posted: Feb 19 2026 at 1:09pm |
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We would need pics of the carbine!
Some get excited about a new looking carbine, but the fact is a refinished carbine just does not match in color or texture. I have one Fulton refinish in the rack and even with eyesight issues I can pick it out from across the room. I have not looked at the link, but IMHO I would rather have mixmaster with an original finish. If you believe the carbine is original, it would no longer be original after refinish. EDIT removed incorrect link
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welbytwo
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Posted: Feb 19 2026 at 6:33pm |
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if you send it to Fulton it should be worth what they charge you to restore it and refinish it-they do nice work but it won't make it worth anymore than it already is--it will just be another refinished carbine and that is the going rate for them from what I have seen
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Posted: Feb 20 2026 at 11:05am |
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Dan,
That link is Wade's Carbine. Finface owns the Inland 5,051,7xx with 3-44 barrel that he's only posted pictures of the sling when trying to install the Amazon purchased sling. Also posted pictures of the PI rear sight when looking for 'Chisel Marks'. Has a Type II barrel band. Same one he was having Feed Issues with back in January. Ch-P777 |
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Posted: Feb 20 2026 at 2:11pm |
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Right you are! Link removed. So basically we need to see more pics of Finface's carbine to actually assess the carbine. In, if you need help uploading or resizing just let us know
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Posted: Feb 22 2026 at 2:15pm |
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Painter and All,
Thank you for your posts. So...I'm getting the picture, sorta (please correct me if wrong), that a "refinish", whether by Fulton-Armory, a local gunsmith, or me, would lower the collectible value to informed collectors. I admitted in an earlier post what I now understand was a minor screwup - my very, very lightly sanding the stock with 400 grit sandpaper - avoiding all the stamps/cartouche - before applying new Raw Linseed Oil. If I ever sell this carbine I will list the sanding I did, and when. I probably should have been more specific - I am primarily interested in the safety aspect of firing my carbine, along with achieving reliable feed (had jams after a couple of shots with two mags before ceasing fire). Those various cost/service levels of scrutiny/restoration by Fulton I posted I thought would be about safety and reliable feeding, but now I'm thinking if the carbine required replacement internal parts it would become "a restoration" in the eyes of collectors, and suffer in proportion to the parts replaced. I do suspect my carbine has all factory original parts, and has never gone through post WW II US or foreign nation armory level upgrade. I'm now thinking what I should first do is replace the recoil spring - the one in there may be 85 years old (although it does look shiny) - and use a heavier oil on the bolt, or even some lithium grease as I think someone suggested. I had applied only very light oil to the moving metal parts (and exterior metal - which looks way better now) - actually it was an oil specifically sold to lubricate home office paper shredders. Yes, incoming eye-rolls are deserved... I will start a new thread specifically to post pictures soon. Also a general comment on the Carbine Data Sheet. A lot of those entries are above my novice "collector" pay grade, or mechanical ability. It would take someone with a LOT of experience taking apart all the parts, and subparts, of my carbine to ferret out the many possible configurations it embodies. |
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Posted: Feb 22 2026 at 2:44pm |
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One should never shoot a carbine dry, or any firearm for that matter. My experience has been that the lubricant doesn’t matter all that much…..just has to be slippery😁.
We could get into the age-old argument about what oil to use in your Harley. Enthusiast can get into vile arguments about scooter oil. If a carbine is sensitive to the weight and type of lubrication….it probably has another problem. Zero or sub-zero temperatures not withstanding.
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Posted: Feb 22 2026 at 3:09pm |
You bet, my 30 Carbine experience pointed out the cold weather issues. Old military ammo is a pain in the butt, however magnum primers and modern powders solve the issue..
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Posted: Feb 22 2026 at 3:10pm |
Floyd, Are you saying Marvel Mystery Oil is okay for our carbines *grin*. I didn't think it would matter using the light shredder oil since the action was smooth before and after I applied it. And as I pondered using it it crossed my mind that the oiler in the stock slot wouldn't have had grease, or probably much more of a heavier oil. Does anyone know what the viscosity of the oil issued to GI's in WWII and Korean was - approximately? Thank you for the reply.
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Posted: Feb 22 2026 at 4:17pm |
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Posted: Feb 22 2026 at 4:27pm |
The light preservative gun oil being issued midwar had cold temperture characteristics similar to today's conventional 5W-20, but thinner at higher temps. Special preservative gun oil was even thinner. You can find cans and bottles surplus fairly easily. The standards got updated a couple times so newer era bottles should have better (and fresher) oil in them. The PL-S identifier remained in use for several decades. The NATO Code Number is O-190. Newer specs were VV-l_800 followed by MIL-PRF-32033 if you want the latest. That said, I think your just as well off using mil-spec CLP, Rem Oil, or similar off the shelf gun oil with preservative. Rifle grease (Lubriplate 130) was used when expecting to be operating in the rain. Sandy, dusty conditions called for just the bare minimum of oil coat so as not to attrack and retain grit.
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