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UPDATE TO THE SALE OF CARBINE CLUB NEWSLETTER BACK-ISSUES

November 9, 2024

It is with regret that we’ve had to raise the price of the complete Newsletter back issue set from $300 to $400 postpaid.  

Our cost in having a complete set printed has risen by $100 since 2022, due to skyrocketing costs of paper, ink, and printing.  Cost of mailing has gone from $12 to $21, media mail.

Each newsletter set now costs the Club $350 (printing and mailing).  All the logistical work is done by unpaid volunteers.  The Club’s $50 profit remains unchanged.  It is used to help pay for the costs of internet hosting of our website and chat forum.

The price for individual back issues of the newsletters will remain the same.  Please read all the information on the pages below before making an order.

Thank you for your understanding.  

Regards,

Marty Black

SALE OF CARBINE CLUB NEWSLETTER BACK-ISSUES

Background
For over 39 years literally thousands of carbine owners, collectors, and researchers submitted
 articles, photographs, bits and pieces of history, carbine data sheets 
and more as a cooperative effort to assist with the reconstruction of 
the history of everything U.S. .30 cal. carbines. All of this 
information was compiled and presented in the form of newsletters to 
further the efforts.

Quantities and Quality
The
 earlier newsletters were done on a typewriter, with photos taped onto 
the master copy, and unfortunately the master copies were not retained 
until we switched to electronically-created newsletters in the latter 
years of the Carbine Club. Hence, many of the early photos did not 
photocopy or scan well, and are very dark. The overall quality of the 
scans also vary somewhat.

Many
 of the early newsletters were quite small, 4-6 pages. Later newsletters
 averaged 8 pages. Newsletters from the last few years of the Carbine 
Club average 20 pages, 17 of them contain color pages.

The Complete Set
The
 complete set comprises over 3300 pages of information weighing over 20 
lbs. They are punched for 3 ring binders (not stapled). You will need 
8-10 2” 3-ring binders to hold them all.

If
 you are a very serious collector/enthusiast or researcher of the .30 
cal. carbines, you will want to purchase the complete back-issue set. 
The knowledge you will gain from a $400 investment could save you 
thousands of dollars in the purchase of a carbine that isn’t what it is 
claimed to be.

The Index
An
 electronic, searchable pdf index of articles/subjects is available on 
the website for free to assist with finding the topics that interest 
you. Be sure to read the “search rules” at the top of the index to 
expedite your search.

Individual Copies
If
 you are a casual collector/enthusiast, the enormity of the back issue 
set will probably be well beyond your interest level. Individual copies 
of the Carbine Club’s newsletters (paper only, no electronic) are also 
available. Use the free index to locate the issues with information you 
are interested in.

Cost & Purchasing
Complete
 back-issue sets of the newsletters (1-384) are available for $400 
postpaid via Media Mail (USA and Canada - Other nations, inquire before 
ordering).

The cost is $5 each postpaid for issues 1-323 and $10 each for issues 324-384.

Prices
 cover the cost of paper, duplication, and postage. A small amount is 
left as a profit to pay our internet server fees and other 
administrative costs to keep the website and forum operating. (No one on
 the Carbine Club staff is compensated. All are volunteers.)

Paypal to - carbinecal30@gmail.com
 - is the preferred method of payment. If purchasing an individual 
issue, please send a separate email to the above address, stating which 
issue you want.

Checks, made payable to Carbine Cal 30, may be mailed to:
Carbine Cal 30
458 Stimson Ave.
Pismo Beach, CA 93449

Any questions or problems, contact Marty Black at carbinecal30@gmail.com

Carbine of the Month and Data Sheet Example
Beginning
 in Newsletter 101, we featured a Carbine of the Month (COM), where the 
parts and markings of a known or suspected factory-original carbine were
 detailed. Later newsletters offered expanded multi-page COMs, some with
 color photos. A COM is reproduced below, with permission of the 
then-owner and writer Marty Black, to give readers an idea of what a COM
 looks like.

Index of Back Issues.

Carbine of the Month Index

Searchable Index of Back Issues 1-384

Searchable Index by Subject Sort by J.R.2009

Editor's Note:
 The index of articles below is a reprint from CCNL 366 and 367. It has 
also been updated to include all of the CCNL's to 384. Thanks to fellow 
club member RedSpecial for the update.

This is the first 
in a two-part series of newsletter indexes, specific to carbine 
manufacturers. It includes references to articles that will help a 
collector know what parts are correct in a carbine, but does not include
 those articles that detail a manufacturer's historical information, 
documents, interviews, production milestones, inspection criteria, minor
 reports, prototypes, etc. Readers should refer to our master Newsletter
 Index for more information on a specific manufacturer, as well as a 
list of all Carbine of the Month (COM) features.

I am a relative 
novice to the Carbine Club, and purchased the back issues of the 
newsletters. They are a wealth of information and a tremendous resource,
 but I found myself "trying to drink from a fire hose." To organize the 
tremendous amount of data, I purchased a 3 ring binder, with a tab for 
each of the manufacturers. Then, each time I found an article or snippet
 of information about a particular manufacturer, I copied it and placed 
it behind the tab for that manufacturer.

One of my favorite parts
 of each newsletter is the COM (Carbine of the Month), and I have put a 
copy of each COM behind my tabs - also by manufacturer. That way, if you
 find a carbine that you want to restore or that you may want to 
purchase, you can check your reference binder and get a good idea of 
what a carbine close to it in serial number range looks like.

Ed Carson

  Inland

  Newsletter
  Date

  Subject

  4
  Feb 77
  Serial numbers vs. barrel dates and major features

  49
  Dec 80
  X marked guns

  72
  Nov 82
  Manufacturer’s update, part 1

  73
  Dec 82
  Manufacturer’s update, part 2

  187
  May 92
  M2 Update

  206
  Dec 93
  Subcontractor parts markings

  268
  Feb 99
  Serial number vs. barrel date – first block

  288
  Oct 00
  X marked presentation guns

  333
  Jan 06
  Stock markings

  339
  Jan 07
  Brown-Lippe-Chapin barrels for Inland

  346
  Mar 08
  Inland’s first serial number block update

  350
  Nov 08
  Brown-Lippe-Chapin (marked B.L.C.) See also NL 352/Mar 09

  353
  May 09
  Second serial number block update

  357
  Jan 10
  Inland duplication of Winchester serial numbers

  359
  May 10
  Type II barrel band markings and identification

  360
  Jul 10
  I-BR on Inland barrels

  361
  Sep 10
  Third serial number block update

  371
  Jul 12
  Inland undated barrels

  372
  Oct 12
  Inland serial number block 6,219,689-6,449,868 – production changes and
  markings

  378
  Apr 14
  Very early Inland “cutaway” carbine

  M1A1 Carbines

  Newsletter
  Date
  Subject

  47
  Oct 80
  Production vs. Dates

  48
  Nov 80
  Stocks

  115
  Jun 86
  M1A1 review

  148
  Mar 89
  M1A1 part numbers

  158
  Jan 90
  Leather cheek piece replacement

  161
  Apr 90
  Folding stock construction and markings

  348
  Jul 08
  M1A1s with bayonet lugs

  351
  Jan 09
  M1A1 butt plate markings on CMP M1A1s

  354
  Jul 09
  Stocks in wrap

  358
  Mar 10
  Late war pistol grip stocks

  Winchester

  Newsletter
  Date
  Subject

  1
  Nov 76
  Winchester carbines

  34
  Aug 79
  Metal finishing operations

  37
  Dec 79
  Subcontractors

  58
  Sep 81
  Manufacturer’s update

  60
  Nov 81
  Bayonet lugs; serial numbers vs. major features

  188
  Jun 92
  First serial number block update

  230
  Dec 95
  Use of transferred receivers, front sight shape

  237
  Jul 96
  5 million serial number block update

  299
  Sep 01
  W marked hammers. See NL 359/May 10 for additional information

  326
  Nov 04
  Approximate monthly production

  336
  Jul 06
  First Serial Number Block Update

  337
  Sep 06
  Serial number application dates. Two corrections in NL 351/Jan 09

  345
  Jan 08
  Rare barrels seen at CMP

  355
  Sep 09
  6 and 7 million serial number block update

  357
  Nov 09
  Left over receivers used by Winchester; 4,726 deliveries in 1946

  371
  Jul 12
  What about the box-of-ten Winchester carbines?

  373
  Jan 13
  Examples of Underwood Receivers to Winchester, AW and WA code

  375
  Jul 13
  More on Underwood Receivers to Winchester, AW and WA code

  National Postal
  Meter

  One of only two
  manufacturers that stamped numbers on the receivers, trigger housings, bolts
  and slides

  Newsletter
  Date
  Subject

  9
  Jul 77
  NPM carbines

  30
  Apr 79
  NPM carbines continued

  125
  Apr 87
  Manufacturer’s update

  126
  May 87
  Update continued, list of subcontractors

  128
  Jul 87
  Subcontractor clarification and oiler discussion

  373
  Jan 13
  NPM production sequence

  373
  Jan 13
  Did NPM reuse serial numbers from scrapped receivers?

  Underwood

  Newsletter
  Date
  Subject

  10
  Aug 77
  UEF carbines

  40
  Mar 80
  Manufacturer’s update

  45
  Aug 80
  Parts types and months used

  127
  Jun 87
  Manufacturer’s update

  128
  Jul 87
  Manufacturer’s update continued

  182
  Dec 91
  Underwood receiver codes

  259
  May 98
  First 200 UEF receivers by Inland

  321
  Jan 04
  10-49 barrels

  325
  Sep 04
  Stock cartouche

  337
  Sep 06
  Marlin and P-U stocks

  352
  Mar 09
  Late barrels and type II bands

  357
  Jan 10
  Underwood receiver codes

  369
  Jan 12
  Inland receivers to Rock-Ola and Underwood

  371
  Jul 12
  Update on Underwood barrels dated 10-49

  373
  Jan 13
  Examples of Underwood Receivers to Winchester, AW and WA code

  374
  Apr 13
  Example of Underwood “line-out” receivers

  375
  Jul 13
  Underwood ‘E’ series carbines

  375
  Jul 13
  More on Underwood Receivers to Winchester, AW and WA code

  IBM

  Newsletter
  Date
  Subject

  7
  May 77
  IBM Carbines (First up[date) and subcontractor list

  36
  May 79
  Serial Number confusion

  54
  May 81
  Facts about IBM

  55
  Jun 81
  IBM Notes

  110
  Jan 86
  Early IBM markings

  162
  May 90
  Manufacturer’s Update

  163
  Jun 90
  Firing Pin markings

  329
  May 05
  Manufacturer’s update

  345
  Jan 08
  IBM Update Addendum

  353
  May 09
  IBM barrel marking lettering

  Quality Hardware

  Newsletter
  Date
  Subject

  8
  Jun 77
  QHMC Carbines (first update)

  68
  Jul 82
  Manufacturer’s update

  101
  Apr 85
  QHMC – the wartime years

  102
  May 85
  QHMC – the wartime years – continued

  110
  Jan 86
  Q-EX 10 carbine

  121
  Dec 86
  Type II band

  122
  Jan 87
  Another Q-EX carbine, another Type II band

  124
  Mar 87
  Still more on Type II bands

  172
  Feb 91
  UN-Quality Manufacturer’s update

  334
  Mar 06
  QHMC Manufacturer’s update

  338
  Nov 06
  QHMC UN-Quality Manufacturer’s update

  357
  Jan 10
  QHMC numbering problem, gap in numbers, analysis of UN-Q quantities

  373
  Jan 13
  Did QHMC reuse serial numbers from scrapped receivers?

  Rock-Ola

  Newsletter
  Date
  Subject

  5
  Mar 77
  Rock-Ola Carbines (first update)

  53
  Apr 81
  EX 6095---

  65
  Apr 82
  Manufacturer’s update part 1

  66
  May 82
  Manufacturer’s update part 2

  72
  Nov 82
  Rock-Ola’s cartouche markings

  105
  Aug 85
  EX and presentation carbines

  117
  Aug 86
  Manufacturer’s update

  118
  Sep 86
  Manufacturer’s update

  119
  Oct 86
  Manufacturer’s update

  174
  Apr 91
  Inland to Rock-Ola receiver shuffle

  238
  Aug 96
  EX 60955414

  318
  Jul 03
  Presentation carbines

  323
  May 04
  Carbine Test #9

  328
  Mar 05
  RMC “Spring tube” receivers

  330
  Jul 05
  Correction on page 10 to butt plate report in NL 328

  348
  Jul 08
  New late barrels discovered in Norway

  358
  Mar 10
  Carbine Test #8

  369
  Jan 12
  Inland receivers to Rock-Ola and Underwood

  372
  Oct 12
  Rock-Ola R-marked front sights and staking patterns

  384
  Oct 15
  Rock-Ola’s usage of Inland and Winchester barrels

  Standard Products

  The 2nd of two
  manufacturers that stamped numbers on the receivers, trigger housings, bolts
  and slides

  Newsletter
  Date
  Subject

  3
  Jan 77
  Standard Products Carbines (first update)

  35
  Oct 79
  Manufacturer’s update and chart of code numbers

  62
  Jan 82
  Subcontractors

  73
  Dec 82
  Slides

  90
  May 84
  Bolt numbering

  92
  Jul 84
  Additional bolt numbering info

  105
  Aug 85
  Un-numbered carbines (2)

  199
  May 93
  More on un-numbered carbines (3)

  203
  Sep 93
  Col. H.M. Reedall (HMR stamp) discussion

  223
  May 95
  Slide numbering

  330
  Jul 05
  Presentation carbines

  333
  Jan 06
  Standard Products carbine with Winchester barrel

  342
  Jul 07
  Another carbine with a Winchester barrel

  350
  Nov 08
  Another un-numbered carbine

  366
  Jul 11
  Manufacturer’s update

  367
  Sep 11
  More on presentation carbine 2053742, reuse of scrapped numbers, receiver
  code numbers

  384
  Oct 15
  Follow up on Standard Products update (366) & HMR stocks

  Saginaw Steering
  Gear

  Newsletter
  Date
  Subject

  78
  May 83
  Two unissued stocks with S-S3 butt plates

  98
  Jan 85
  Manufacturer’s update, part 1

  99
  Feb 85
  Manufacturer’s update, part 2

  120
  Nov 86
  Study of 5.8 million SG carbines

  132
  Nov 87
  Presentation carbines (2)

  197
  Mar 93
  Magazine marking

  206
  Dec 93
  Presentation carbine

  207
  Jan 94
  Data sheet for presentation carbine in NL 206

  235
  May 96
  Front band assembly dimensions

  253
  Nov 97
  Another presentation carbine

  255
  Jan 98
  Manufacturer’s update

  269
  Mar 99
  Strange serial number

  348
  Jul 08
  Inland to Saginaw restamped receiver

  357
  Jan 10
  Saginaw and S’G’ mixture

  358
  Mar10
  Unusual barrel marking

  Irwin-Pedersen and
  Saginaw Grand Rapids (S’G’)

  It is very
  difficult to separate the IP carbines from the follow-on Saginaw S’G’
  carbines, so both are listed together here

  Newsletter
  Date
  Subject

  2
  Dec 76
  First study of SG, IP and S’G’ production

  21
  Jul 78
  IP/ S’G’ trigger shapes

  27
  Jan 79
  Update from the study in NL 2

  31
  May 79
  Style of the serial numbers on IP/ S’G’ receivers

  70
  Sep 82
  “Batching” of Irwin-Pedersen and early S’G’ carbine production

  103
  Jun 85
  S’G’ Presentation carbine

  121
  Dec 86
  IP/ S’G’ and SG stock manufacturer

  142
  Sep 88
  IP/ S’G’ front sight numbers identified

  168
  Nov 90
  Side-tracked IP receivers

  188
  Jun 92
  IP magazine markings

  245
  Mar 97
  Unmarked parts seen on 15 IP/ S’G’ carbines

  283
  May 00
  Another look at IP/ S’G’ front sight numbers

  347
  May 08
  ISP oilers

  351
  Jan 09
  Fake IP presentation carbine 1766641

  354
  Jul 09
  Double-marked IP stock

  357
  Jan 10
  Analysis of possibly how many IPs produced, the SG and S’G’ mixture

  374
  Apr 13
  Irwin-Pedersen marked carbines (manufacturer’s update)

  Miscellaneous

  Newsletter
  Date
  Subject

  382
  Apr 15
  Update on field installation of adjustable rear sights in WWII

  383
  Jul 15
  Transition from the push safety to the rotary safety

  384
  Oct 15
  Hardness test marks, proof-firing marks and acceptance stamps

384 Oct 15 Proof firing marks on M1 carbine barrels

Edited by New2brass - Feb 18 2025 at 4:13pm