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Mustang2535 
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 Posted: Jun 02 2024 at 11:07am |
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Something I just noticed after submitting the two above posts, both carbines have Saginaw SG barrels, but the fonts are difference sizes. One is larger than the other.
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KKCook
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Posted: Nov 28 2024 at 10:00am |
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This one came from the DCM and I have the original paperwork and USPS postal receipt. The purchaser paid $22.50 (or right around that) shipped. Question 2: Initials above serial number - SAGINAW SG Question 3: Front ring details - CAL. 30M1 Question 4: Rear tang - Wide Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - No ear Question 6: Front and middle left detail - SG (no middle marking) Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - P Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - SAGINAW S.G. DIV GENERAL MOTORS (undated) Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - Round _________________ This one is not in that serial range but I’m posting it in hopes someone knows if the marking is standard. I expected a 1.82 to be marked S’G’ but it is SG Question 1: Serial number - 1829986 Question 2: Initials above serial number - SAGINAW SG Question 3: Front ring details - CAL. .30MI Question 4: Rear tang - Wide Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - Square ear Question 6: Front and middle left detail - Left - none Middle - J Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - None Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - UNDERWOOD 8-43 Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - Square with a flaming bomb just behind cut KK
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Posted: Dec 27 2024 at 6:43pm |
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Question 1: Serial number - 3486543
Question 2: Initials above serial number - SAGINAW SG Question 3: Front ring details - CAL. 30M1 Question 4: Rear tang - Wide Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - No ear Question 6: Front and middle left detail - SG (no middle marking) Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - ! w/o dot right side Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - Blue Sky Arlington VA (undated) Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - Round |
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Matt_X
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Posted: Dec 27 2024 at 8:22pm |
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Bumping this up so one of the more knowledgable can comment. Wide tang suggests to me it a receiver made at Saginaw even though the number was assigned S'G' My understanding is there were some S'G' numbers used early when the Saginaw plant started making carbines, and again toward the end of production.
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W5USMC
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Posted: Dec 27 2024 at 10:28pm |
Blue Sky is an import marking not the barrel manufacturer. Check the top of the barrel behind the front sight for the Manufacturer. See link below for examples. |
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BlueGhost
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Posted: Dec 28 2024 at 3:48pm |
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1) 3603414 2) SAGINAW S’G' 3) U.S. CARBINE CAL. .30 Ml 3A) Rounded 4) Narrow 5) Square 6) No
letters/numbers. 7) None 8) INLAND MFG. DIV. 10-43 9) Square |
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jearlky
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Posted: Jan 28 2025 at 8:06pm |
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1) 58352xx
2) S.G. 3) CAL. 30. M1. M1 font is serif 4) wide 5) NO EAR 6) NONE 7) F 8) SAGINAW S.G. DIVISION GENERAL MOTORS 9) ROUND  |
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New2brass
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Posted: Feb 12 2025 at 3:53pm |
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OK, list updated. KKCook, I did not hear back, as Matt pointed out there are a few things that stand out. Possibly a unfinished receiver sent to other location for finishing. Maybe a reused serial number, so pics to email or post please.
Edited by New2brass - Feb 12 2025 at 5:57pm |
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jsmoth
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Posted: Mar 01 2025 at 2:39pm |
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Are you still interested in information on the Saginaw SG receivers? I have one if still interested, but I may be 5 years too late. jsmoth
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W5USMC
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Posted: Mar 01 2025 at 3:59pm |
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@jsmoth, if it falls in the serial # range below then yes please submit your info. This is ongoing research, never too late to add additional info.
3,249,020 thru 3,651,519 5,834,619 thru 6,071,188 |
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Wayne
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jsmoth
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Posted: Mar 03 2025 at 10:18am |
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The serial number is 3 369 076. I will take the cargine apart this week and send the information to you. I kept looking for a reply in my mail box with no luck. Fortunately I decided to look at my message and found your reply. Sincerely, Jeff Slosser
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New2brass
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Posted: Mar 03 2025 at 11:05am |
You had email notification turned off. I turned it on for you
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jsmoth
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Posted: Mar 03 2025 at 6:14pm |
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My original correspondence was with W5USMC and it appears I am now sending this to New2brass. Hopefully, this can be shared between the two of you. I purchased this carbine about 1 year ago from a gun store in Houston, but the carbine was shipped to me from Colorado. The barrel and receiver are as I received them. The carbine was a mix/master and came with an IBM stock, plus misc. other parts from 5 major contractors. If you want other info just let me know. Sincerely, jsmoth Question 1: Serial number - 3369076 Question 2: Initials above serial number - SG no periods Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - CAL. 30 MI, serif on I, period after CAL., no period before 3, the 3 is flat top Question 4: Rear tang - wide Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - no ear Question 6: Front and middle left detail - letter SG on lower left side, width of SG about 3/16" - perhaps 5/32", no additional letters Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - in middle of bottom right side there is a short line that runs to edge - or perhaps a dash about 1/16" long Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - SAGINAL S.G. DIV. over GENERAL MOTORS, no date Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - round I do not have a SG stock, mine is IBM Please also see this post for requests of Saginaw numbers in the slingwell:
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KKCook
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Posted: Mar 16 2025 at 4:49pm |
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Dan, apologies for the delay. I think my email notifications may be off. I happened to re-read the thread and saw this.
Below is a link to an album of photos I just took. I don't make a habit of buying things from GunBroker, but that is where this carbine came from. After I received it, I'm pretty sure the stock is a Boyd's high wood that someone put markings on. It's a nice stock, but too perfect and the edges are too sharp in my opinion. Besides that, I believe all the areas on the receiver are pictured here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/f2oVbCiibBgdgbeY7 If you'd like others, please let me know.
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New2brass
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Posted: Mar 16 2025 at 5:17pm |
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Kevin, Thanks for getting back The rear tang is narrow. The receiver looks to be S'G' marked with the primes (apostrophes) lightly struck Did you fix the email or do you need assistance?
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KKCook
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Posted: Mar 16 2025 at 7:33pm |
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It may be the pictures or the milling of the receiver. I’ve looked with emagnifying glasses and under multiple types of light, light at different angles, etc. and have found no trace of the primes.
I just added another photo to the album, should be the first picture. Think I took care of the emails, I was alerted about your reply.
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jsmoth
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Posted: Mar 17 2025 at 9:59am |
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I had a strange message in my personal email this morning regarding a question I had submitted. The only question I have ever asked regarded if you were still interested in submissions on SG receivers. I did get a reply and I did submit the information I had on my SG receiver. I don't know if I got a spam but I do know that the club site is not secure. If the email was legitimate, I did get a reply to my question and I did submit information. Thanks, jsmoth
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New2brass
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Posted: Mar 17 2025 at 2:40pm |
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JSmoth, please PM me the email address you received a question from. This way I can check if we have a spammer. As to the site not being secure, I assume you are talking about the sight is HTTP protocol and nor HTTPS. HTTPS is HTTP with encryption end to end. This is needed for websites that support financial transactions, which we do not. HTTPS comes with a monthly cost. We do not charge dues, nor do we run advertisements. To pay our internet hosting fees, ISP, forum software etc we rely on the little we make on newsletter sales. This would tip the scales and we would then need another revenue stream to support something that is not needed. To maker it clear, never use the PM feature, or email through the forum for financial transactions. Guys that post their email addresses in posts are opening themselves to unwanted emails from anyone reading the forums or internet crawlers. This is true on HTTPS sites as well. EDIT to add, I think you may be getting forum notifications for a thread you are involved in. Look back a few posts where I replied to you not receiving notifications. I sent you an email explaining, if that is the email you are concerned about. Edited by New2brass - Mar 17 2025 at 3:20pm |
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Posted: Apr 05 2025 at 9:01pm |
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1Saginaw SG ser.# 3404577 2 SG 3 CAL.30 M! only period after Cal. 4 Rear tang is wide 5 No ear 6 SG on lower left side of receiver 7 There is a X on top of the trigger housing lug 8 Saginaw SG DIV No date but Flaming Ball or a 8 about i inch below name. 9 Slide cut is Round |
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Smoky 1
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Posted: Apr 05 2025 at 9:03pm |
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This Saginaw is a DCM gun from 1967. All saginaw exsept stock, typ 3 barrel band and fron stight.
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