WRA flat bolt use?

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   Today I found a WRA carbine at a gunshow ser. no. 5753--- it looked all original except it was in a IO marked stock. The finish looked original and every thing looked correct except it had a W marked flat bolt. I don't have my CC newsletters handy and I don't remember how late Winchester used flat bolts.Can anybody tell me if it could be correct with the flat bolt?

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kar6666 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Recruit Joined: Jan 05 2016 Location: California, Mo Status: Offline Points: 53	Post Options Post Reply Quote kar6666 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: WRA flat bolt use? Posted: Sep 28 2019 at 2:24pm
	Today I found a WRA carbine at a gunshow ser. no. 5753--- it looked all original except it was in a IO marked stock. The finish looked original and every thing looked correct except it had a W marked flat bolt. I don't have my CC newsletters handy and I don't remember how late Winchester used flat bolts. Can anybody tell me if it could be correct with the flat bolt?

W5USMC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: Apr 29 2017 Location: Missouri Status: Online Points: 2865	Post Options Post Reply Quote W5USMC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Sep 28 2019 at 2:52pm
	CCNL 237-6 says The flat bolt was in use to 5703075, the first round bolt was reported at 5705xxx. A mix of flat and round were reported between 5720xxx-5729xxx. The round bolt predominates from 5750xxx to end of block.
	Wayne USMC Retired NRA Life Member

kar6666 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Recruit Joined: Jan 05 2016 Location: California, Mo Status: Offline Points: 53	Post Options Post Reply Quote kar6666 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Sep 28 2019 at 3:11pm
	Thank you very much. It looks like it should be round, but a flat may be correct. I won't be changing it I like flat bolts better anyway. Thanks again.

tenOCEE Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Hard Corps Knows rear sights! Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: East Tenn Status: Offline Points: 1330	Post Options Post Reply Quote tenOCEE Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Sep 28 2019 at 9:34pm
	EDIT: as far as originality.... ...how do you feel about this one, guys (with round bolt)? 5.695 that looks pretty crisp. Has a round bolt and IRco rear sight. I got sight pics and there's no flip staking that I saw. Type V housing. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/832005397 Edited by tenOCEE - Sep 29 2019 at 1:48pm

tenOCEE Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Hard Corps Knows rear sights! Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: East Tenn Status: Offline Points: 1330	Post Options Post Reply Quote tenOCEE Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Sep 29 2019 at 12:08pm
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floydthecat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Hard Corps Joined: Oct 13 2016 Location: Mississippi Status: Offline Points: 1928	Post Options Post Reply Quote floydthecat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Sep 29 2019 at 1:04pm
	The more I look the more T3’s I find on later production guns bearing no flip stake-marks. I recently acquired 6.08 ROCK wearing a T3 staked on the front right corner only and no staking tracks anywhere else and the finishes match.

tenOCEE Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Hard Corps Knows rear sights! Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: East Tenn Status: Offline Points: 1330	Post Options Post Reply Quote tenOCEE Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Sep 29 2019 at 1:40pm
	Not with Rockola. Count on it being added later. Win used adjustables, which everyone knows. The above pics aren't for proof of adjustable usage, but that IRco marked one specifically. It's also to present the Carbine asking about the round bolt due to the matching condition of all the parts including the bolt even though it's 5.695 and not 5705xxx as stated above where it was observed first used. Check the GB link for other pics. Someone much more knowledgeable than me on Rockola says he's never seen an original one with absolute proof other than a flip sight originally. Recently on another sight one was posted claiming it's not flip staked and it's quite obviously flip staked though very lightly in the way Rockola staked them, which is a unique manner that they staked.

floydthecat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Hard Corps Joined: Oct 13 2016 Location: Mississippi Status: Offline Points: 1928	Post Options Post Reply Quote floydthecat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Sep 29 2019 at 2:34pm
	“Someone much more knowledgeable than me on Rockola says he's never seen an original one with absolute proof other than a flip sight originally. Recently on another sight one was posted claiming it's not flip staked and it's quite obviously flip staked though very lightly in the way Rockola staked them, which is a unique manner that they staked.” Light flip-staking on a Rock-Ola may very well be the reason they cannot be easily detected. Under certain light, I can detect a very faint divot, which I guess we can assume to be a very light strike.