Were Inland Hammer Plungers Blued?

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   I'm looking for a blued hammer plunger.  I saw a picture of an Inland plunger for sale, but I'm not sure if it's blued or parkerized.  Can anyone tell me if Inland used blued plungers, parkerized plungers, or some combination.
Thanks!

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James Weaver Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Recruit Joined: Jan 04 2016 Location: Reed City, MI Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote James Weaver Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Were Inland Hammer Plungers Blued? Posted: Apr 25 2016 at 11:42am
	I'm looking for a blued hammer plunger. I saw a picture of an Inland plunger for sale, but I'm not sure if it's blued or parkerized. Can anyone tell me if Inland used blued plungers, parkerized plungers, or some combination. Thanks!
	James Weaver

New2brass Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Dan Pinto, Photo Editor Joined: Nov 29 2015 Location: CT Status: Offline Points: 4664	Post Options Post Reply Quote New2brass Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Apr 25 2016 at 1:13pm
	I believe for the most part on Inlands all the small parts and pins were blued or black oxide. later there was a mix of in the white or blued/black oxide for hammer plunger. Maybe Newscotlander will chime in as he wrote the Inland updates and is very familiar with them

James Weaver Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Recruit Joined: Jan 04 2016 Location: Reed City, MI Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote James Weaver Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Apr 26 2016 at 8:26am
	I did some reading last night. According to Reisch, parkerized hammer plungers were either very late war or post war. He stated in his 7th edition that hammer plungers were blued or in-the-white. I couldn't locate any other information in the few books that I have. I forgot to check Canfield, though.
	James Weaver

New2brass Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Dan Pinto, Photo Editor Joined: Nov 29 2015 Location: CT Status: Offline Points: 4664	Post Options Post Reply Quote New2brass Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Apr 26 2016 at 9:54am
	Books are not necessarily correct or dated information. Were they referring to Inlands or all manufactures with respect of phosphate coatings used on hammer plungers? CCNLs use known samples that are original as left the factory. Using the manufactures updates listed here: http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/ccnl-back-issues_topic1138.html Seems early on blue/black then Blue/Black and white. later in the white more prevalent but blue black was also seen. My thought is that it is easier to blue or black oxide small parts as the Parkerizing creates bubbles and if parts touch each other the finish is mottled or bare spots.

NewScotlander Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grunt Advanced Collector Joined: Jan 02 2016 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 682	Post Options Post Reply Quote NewScotlander Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Apr 26 2016 at 12:16pm
	"Can anyone tell me if Inland used blued plungers, parkerized plungers, or some combination." It would appear from the data that Inland used Hammer Spring Plungers with a black oxide finish early in production and transitioned to unfinished Plungers buy the end of production. I don't believe that Inland ever used plungers with a phosphate finish, however I have not done any research on very late M2 production.

James Weaver Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Recruit Joined: Jan 04 2016 Location: Reed City, MI Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote James Weaver Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Apr 26 2016 at 12:27pm
	Thanks, guys. I appreciate the wisdom. I'm a teacher so I can't buy the Carbine Club Newsletters with summer coming up. However, it's at the top of my list for fall. I'm really looking forward to reading through all of them. What a treasure trove of awesome information.
	James Weaver

NewScotlander Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grunt Advanced Collector Joined: Jan 02 2016 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 682	Post Options Post Reply Quote NewScotlander Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Apr 26 2016 at 5:56pm
	And when I posted "buy", I actually meant "by". Can't find a way to edit the typo.

New2brass Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Dan Pinto, Photo Editor Joined: Nov 29 2015 Location: CT Status: Offline Points: 4664	Post Options Post Reply Quote New2brass Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Apr 26 2016 at 6:11pm
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coolt1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Recruit Joined: Jan 13 2016 Location: KANAB UT Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote coolt1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Apr 27 2016 at 1:15pm
	James, I believe Newscotlander is correct. I have a NIW Inland WW2 spare I'll send you, on the house. You're poor enough;-)
	COOLT

James Weaver Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Recruit Joined: Jan 04 2016 Location: Reed City, MI Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote James Weaver Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Apr 27 2016 at 2:32pm
	Thanks, but I bought a few replacements. I wasn't hitting anyone up for a free one. That's very kind of you, though. I really appreciate everyone here willing to share knowledge. There is so much fascinating history with carbines.
	James Weaver