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bumppo 
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 Posted: Aug 09 2020 at 8:54pm |
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the top of barrel band with two spot welds:
 on the inner side of the stock's upper handguard is the mark S-HB. inside the sling well is the mark SH-B. near the front end of the barrel channel inside the lower handguard is the mark H. |
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jackp1028
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Posted: Aug 09 2020 at 9:08pm |
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Still looks good to me.
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Posted: Aug 09 2020 at 9:42pm |
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Just a feeling, but I stop thinking that parts of the gun have been tweaked some, to what degree I can't tell from the limited pictures. I would like to see one more close-up picture of the back of the front sight at the point where it sits on the barrel. Thanks
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bumppo
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Posted: Aug 09 2020 at 10:00pm |
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I'll find out how it shoots tomorrow.
thanks and rest assured this carbine will be looked after and not go into careless hands. I wish the government was as trustworthy as you people. |
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bumppo
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Posted: Aug 09 2020 at 10:25pm |
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the back of the front sight:
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jackp1028
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Posted: Aug 09 2020 at 10:52pm |
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I gotta say, you take the best pictures!
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Posted: Aug 10 2020 at 8:31am |
I would make that the very last of the last resorts. Hopefully someone else can confirm this as I can't find my reference, but somewhere I read not to leave solvent and excessive oil in the cylinder. You have to get the cylinder "dried out".
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tenOCEE
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Posted: Aug 10 2020 at 9:23am |
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First image of the sight said "fake" to me. Three things tell me it's not USGI. The next pic made me question that, but when have you ever seen a Square S with visible milling on the sides? Now, deldriver once shared pics of a flip that looked perfectly aged but looked like an aged high quality fake from LS Supply. When you see it in person there's no question it was real USGI, because you didn't see the things that made me question it. Pics and seen in person makes a difference when you get to the 5% that aren't readily discernible (to me). A couple of other guys who post are surely better at those than I am. I wouldn't buy that one based on the pics. Not at all. I'd want to see it in person to change my mind before paying.
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My sig: Seen an IP or S'G'? Add it to my registry. We'll check consecutives.
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Posted: Aug 10 2020 at 10:26am |
Actually page 16 of FM 23-7 dtd May 20 1942, says the opposite and recommends allowing oil to get into the gas port when cleaning after firing, "Saturate
a patch in light preservative lubricating oil and push it
through the bore, holding the rifle, top side up, so that some
of the oil will flow into the gas port."
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Wayne
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Posted: Aug 10 2020 at 11:13am |
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I haven't had to do this a lot, but the few times I've had a frozen piston I capped the barrel, turned the the muzzle straight down and filled the barrel up from the breech with either CLP or Ballistol---has worked every time. BTW, I have one of the barrel caps seen on Bavarian carbines and put a rubber band around it to make sure I have no leaks. Sounds extreme, but in stubborn cases it works quite pretty well. I would recommend shooting it first to see if that breaks it loose since it's the easiest method. As far as the rifle itself goes, if it were mine, based on the dovetails showing the signs it does of sight removal, I would try and get my money back if possible. I'm not sure if it's the original barrel to that SP or not, it reminds me of an NPM barrel to some degree.
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Posted: Aug 10 2020 at 11:35am |
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Looking at the front sight and muzzle it makes me think the front sight might have cocked when installed. If I were looking for an original carbine this would put me off. I only commented on what I seen as I am just looking to learn something and not trashing your carbine.
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Posted: Aug 10 2020 at 12:04pm |
 anyone have comments about this?
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Posted: Aug 10 2020 at 1:05pm |
I did in my first reply, my thinking being the SP acceptance stamp didn't have a pointy flame lick, it was rounded. I'm sure if the flame is wrong then there's more too, I just didn't look any further. |
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bumppo
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Posted: Aug 10 2020 at 1:08pm |
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update on how it shot this morning, using 110 gr fmj sellier & bellot ammo: first 20 rounds: it shot consistently 2" high and 2" right at 25 yds., with three feed jams. I shifted to the 50-yd target and the first round hit 3" high and 4" right. I stopped at that point, because the 22nd cartridge was feed-jammed and the bolt slipped up and out of the receiver in my left hand while I was holding the slide back with my right and trying to shake out the jammed 'live' cartridge. the rear sight is already all the way flush to the right end of the receiver's dovetail. also, there are two small parallel cracks in the stock about 3/8" apart both shooting backwards from the tang of the recoil plate. at each round fired, the tiny chip of wood between these cracks popped up under my thumb, about 1/16". with only a little pressure each time, this wood popped back into place
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Posted: Aug 10 2020 at 1:22pm |
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If you are hitting to the right, you want to move the rear sight to the left.
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bumppo
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Posted: Aug 10 2020 at 1:33pm |
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I heard "FORS" - Front Opposite Rear Same.
i.e., to correct point of impact, move the Front sight in the direction Opposite to the point of impact, or move the Rear sight in the Same direction as the point of impact.
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blackfish
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Posted: Aug 10 2020 at 1:42pm |
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Think it through, don't just mindlessly recite something you heard or read.
You want to move the Rear sight in Same direction as the point of impact YOU WANT, not the point of impact YOU GOT You want to move your point of impact left so move the rear sight LEFT |
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Posted: Aug 10 2020 at 1:45pm |
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"FORS" that is opposite of the direction you want your impact to be for the front and the same as you want your impact to be for the rear. Shooting right you want to shoot left, move the rear sight in the same direction you want to shoot.
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bumppo
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Posted: Aug 10 2020 at 2:02pm |
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i get it now.
I must be dyslexic due to panic. would glue fix the whole problem of wood chipping up behind the recoil plate? |
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Charles
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Posted: Aug 10 2020 at 2:03pm |
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I would have a knowledgeable carbine owner take a good look at it before i fired it again.
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