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    Posted: Aug 22 2019 at 10:32pm
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I recently purchased a third block (April 44) Rock-Ola.  Correct for that carbine is a type 2 barrel band, unmarked.  The one on the carbine is a type 2 that seems to have a small triangle with two squared corners, but no letters in the triangle or anywhere else.  It’s so faint I can’t even take a picture of it.  Can only see it magnified under pretty bright light.  I’ve read that Inland had some marked with a triangle with PI in it, but this definitely isn’t that.  Anybody seen this before and know what it is?
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there is no PI in a triangle t2 band.  It is really the letters A over S. The A frame looks like the top of triangle  and the wide squat S is the lower part
 I suspect the little squares are the curves of the S that you are seeing.
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Welcome !

Here is a picture of the type used on some Inlands. The inner letters are worn away. It would of had the letters AS intertwined for American Swiss. The only triangular shaped type II, I can think of right now. But I'm tired and my flight was cancelled.

Is your's // ?  Is marking on the left or right?
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American Swiss for Inland. A over S.   Many have mistakenly ID this as a PI in a pendant which is not correct.  American Swiss type 2 bands are usally a lightly struck stamp.




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Thanks to everybody for the replies.  It is a very light stamp, but I’d say that it’s definitely the American Swiss.  (It was the “M1family.com” website parts stamping listings where I saw the reference to a PI in a pennant.)  Larry Ruth in “Warbaby” identifies American Swiss as a barrel band subcontractor for Inland, but not for Rock-Ola.  Nor does Ruth show ANY barrel bands integrated to Rock-Ola from any other prime contractor.  So here’s my problem:  The carbine barrel is Rock-ola, undated, and shows no sign of the (Rock-ola correctly marked) front sight ever being removed (the pin is stacked on both sides).  Also, the carbine has never been through Ordnance rework; it still has an unmodified type one sear, a type one trigger, the short mag catch plunger and spring, and the type two barrel band, all of which had Ordnance rebuild modification or replacement requirements.  So it couldn’t have stayed in the US system after WWII.  It has no import marks, so I figure it pretty much had to be a GI bring back.  So how did it get the American Swiss barrel band, seemingly as an original part?  It’s a very late block three serial number, which Ruth says should be unmarked or marked with a “\”.  Any ideas?  Has anybody else run across this?  Thanks in advance.

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We really need more pictures of your RMC, especially the front sight from different angles and any other ones you feel will help tell your story. BTW, arsenal rebuilds could either complete or anything in-between and that doesn't even touch field level changes or what happens when parts are swapped by collectors. One last thing, do NOT imagine this is a bring back just because there's no import marks. There is all kind of scenarios for a weapon like the carbine to make the trip back to the states other than a GI stuffing it into his duffle bag or other ways.
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