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    Posted: Oct 23 2021 at 8:40pm
Question 2: Initials above serial number - I posted S' G' 

                   On my receiver above the serial number is stamped the following
                 
                   SAGINAW S' G'
                   3554194

 I hope this clears up the 2nd question.
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Smile Here is my M1 Saginaw Carbine information!

Question 1: Serial Number - 3554194

Question 2: Initials above serial number - S' G'

Question 3: Front ring details - U.S. CARBINE
                                              CAL.  .30 Ml

Question 4: Rear Tang - Narrow

Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - Squared Ear Note; Area under the rear sight is 
                                                       a Hardness Punch Mark

Question 6: Front and middle left detail - No Markings on the front  R stamped near middle

Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - No marks found

Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - SAGINAW S' G' D V
                                                                GENERAL MOTORS
                                                                No Date found
                                                                P stamped 7-1/8"s  top from the muzzle 

Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - Square

Additional request of Saginaw numbers in slingwell: There are no markings at all anywhere on the
                                                                            stock nor hand-guard. I am sure the woodwork is
                                                                            after market. Cry
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Here is the information from my second Saginaw SG carbine.

Question 1: Serial number - 32954xx

Question 2: Initials above serial number - SG

Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - U.S.CARBINE  (there is a space after CAL.)
                                                                                                       CAL. 30M1

Question 4: Rear tang - wide

Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - no ear

Question 6: Front and middle left detail - nothing on left side of rcvr.

Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - nothing on bottom

Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date -       SAGINAW S.G. DIV           1/8in P - 6 inches from muzzle
                                                                           GENERAL MOTORS           no date
Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - round

This one has Arlington Ordnance import mark under barrel.
It is in an m2 stock with no markings and white paint pen numbers on both sides of the stock. Don't know where it came from.
It does still retain a SG trigger housing.
I hope this furthers your research efforts.
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I bought this carbine recently from Gunbroker. Here is the info you want:

Question 1: Serial number - 34719xx

Question 2: Initials above serial number - SG

Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) -
                      U.S.CARBINE
                         CAL.30MI.          (appears as shown, no spaces)

Question 4: Rear tang - wide

Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - no ear

Question 6: Front and middle left detail - front left: SG  (2/16ths), no other marks on left side

Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - serif A stamped on trigger housing lug

Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - UNDERWOOD 7-43 with badly stamped flaming bomb below and
                    5/32 P below that but visible with type III barrel band, short skirt. The middle of the word UNDERWOOD is barely visible but the date stamp is sharp. The turning marks on the barrel are still visible.

Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - round

Not much finish left on this old soldier. It has a Winchester stock with an RA rebuild mark that probably predates the .U. rebuild mark on the left side. Has a san serif P (3/8in) on the front of the grip, and a very small 1 stamped on the bottom of the grip.
It also probably got the pits in its barrel from storage with the Israeli military as it has the serial number stamped into the left side of the stock under the comb. Also courtesy of one of the rebuilds, has an Inland trigger housing with mixed parts.
Hope this helps.


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SAGINAW RECEIVER QUESTIONS:                                                                                                        #1  3470733                                                                                                                                        2  SAGINAW S.G.                                                                                                                                3  CAL. 30 M1.                                                                                                                                    4  WIDE TANG- ROUND SLIDE CUT                                                                                                      5  NO EAR RECEIVER                                                                                                                          6  SMALL SG 1/8 LEFT REC.                                                                                                                7  BOTTOM TRIG. HSG. LUG MARKED A                                                                                                8  BARREL SAGINAW S.G. DIV.  (NO DATE)
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Question 1: Serial number - 3254748

Question 2: Initials above serial number - SG

Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - CAL. .30 MI

Question 4: Rear tang - Narrow

Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - No ear

Question 6: Front and middle left detail - No letters or numbers

Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - J on lug

Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - SAGINAW S.G. DIV.
     GENERAL MOTORS

Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - Round

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thank you,
We are also looking for a little info on the Italian carbines

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1.  S/N 3,496,712
2.  S.G.
3.  CAL. 30 MI. (Sans serif M1, period after CAL, no period preceding 30, period after M1)
4.  Wide tang
5.  No ear
6.  Small SG on left side front (2/16”), no other letters
7.  Capital “O” on bottom of trigger housing lug
8.  Underwood 3-44 barrel
9.  End of rear slide cut is round

(This was one of the Midway USA Italian carbines.)
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Yep, Still looking for info!

Guys if you see these at auction or for sale you can submit that info as well!
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I have one of the rifles in question. Are you still looking for info?
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Hello, I'd like to add my Saginaw to your research.

Question #1      Serial #3222275

Question #2      S' G'

Question #3      U.S. Carbine Cal. .30 M l (no serifs)

Question #4      Narrow

Question #5      Rounded with hole

Question #6      Upside down 5 middle left side

Question #7      None found

Question #8      Underwood 12-43

Question #9       Square
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Question 1: Serial number - 3650096

Question 2: Initials above serial number - S'G'

Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - period after cal and another before 30

Question 4: Rear tang - Narrow- No markings, not sure it is original

Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - Squared ear

Question 6: Front and middle left detail - B in the middle

Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - None

Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - Inland 3-43

Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - Square
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Square corner to the ear is the meaning there. Thank you. Under IP they ground the corner rounded to follow the circular tooling hole.
My sig: Seen an IP or S'G'? Add it to my registry. We'll check consecutives.
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@ Smokepole, I missed you post. We are only looking for receivers used at the Saginaw plants at this time, but thank you for asking.

@ Johnny, Are you sure your left rear receiver detail is a rounded ear?
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Question 1: Serial number - 3616618

 

Question 2: Initials above serial number – SAGANAW S’G’

 

Question 3: Front ring details – CAL. .30 MI

 

Question 4: Rear tang – Narrow with possible vertical mark on side next to hole

 

Question 5: Rear left receiver detail – Rounded Ear

 

Question 6: Front and middle left detail - N

 

Question 7: Receiver bottom detail – N/A (none)

 

Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date – SAGINAW S G. DIV

                                                                     GENERAL MOTORS

 

Question 9: Rear slide cut detail – Square at rear, rounded towards front

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Are you interested at all in Inland receivers made by Saginaw?
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@ bigheavy, as far as ordnance was concerned Saginaw was one entity with two factories.
It is theorized the first delivery of SG marked receiver were delivered out the the GR plant.
Later there were receivers sent to GR to have the serial numbers applied.
There is much more to the full story and why we are looking closer at the certain serial number ranges to establish what may have actually taken place.

@ kar, the highest serial was reported as 5,87x,xxx
that information as well as information of some of the SG factory receiver questions stems mostly from CCNL 357 which 19 pages were devoted to serial numbers and anomalies.

Everyone, If you see a Saginaw anywhere you can report this information.
If you see it at an auction site and do not want to transpose the information please post or drop me an email or PM with a link and I will take care of the rest.

on the note of serial numbers, do not forget the "Serial numbers to look for and report"
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I have been in and out of M1 carbines since the late 70s and I don't remember ever seeing a 58 or 6 mil Saginaw M1 Carbine. What is the highest serial number reported in that block? I am sure it is posted in the Carbine Club Newsletters but I don't have them handy anymore. There must not have been a lot of them manufactured.
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Forgot to ask about the receiver cut on the right side, semi-circle or square cut.
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