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    Posted: Aug 05 2022 at 5:39pm
Question 1: Serial number - 3333436

Question 2: Initials above serial number - SG

Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - San Serif MI

Question 4: Rear tang - Wide

Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - No Ear

Question 6: Front and middle left detail - SG

Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - K

Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - SG

Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - Round

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I just looked at the data sheet and am amazed at the details that are listed.
I had NO idea what amount od work and research has been done on the Carbines.
Now I’m sorry I didn’t buy one years ago so I could have participated in all that has been done
Now I can’t wait to get my  arbine from my FFL as soon as it arrives so I can start filling out a data sheet on my Carbine.   

How can I determine if a data sheet may already exist for my serial number?
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Prime more correctly should be an apostrophe S'G'. 
If there are none then this is of interest as a possible roll die error.

will condense post when I can and followup if any other info is needed.
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Originally posted by New2brass New2brass wrote:

Your 1.82 is a grand Rapids made receiver.  <aybe take a better look from the side to see if the primes are present

Saginaw facility sent receivers to the Grand Rapids facility in late 43
Yours is one of those Saginaw facility made receivers.
The front ring when reported was with a serif 1.
Can you check and also is the 3 in 30 rounded or flat top. Post a pic if possible.

 Yeah, I saw the serial number range you were looking for, after the fact. My apologies, feel free to delete the post with the 1.82 example, or make it so I can delete it and keep your thread as clean as possible.

  I assume you're wanting more info from the 3.63 Saginaw. Here are a couple of photos. If you can make my original post editable, I can move these photos there so as not to clutter your thread.



 
Please let me know if you need more specific info. As to "primes", I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but there are no more marks on the receiver other than what I've posted.
 
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Your 1.82 is a grand Rapids made receiver.  <aybe take a better look from the side to see if the primes are present

Saginaw facility sent receivers to the Grand Rapids facility in late 43
Yours is one of those Saginaw facility made receivers.
The front ring when reported was with a serif 1.
Can you check and also is the 3 in 30 rounded or flat top. Post a pic if possible.
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Originally posted by New2brass New2brass wrote:

35 Whelen, please check what you posted, it seems you may have mixed up some information on the two you posted.

 Does this help?
 

  


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Originally posted by New2brass New2brass wrote:

35 Whelen, please check what you posted, it seems you may have mixed up some information on the two you posted.

 Well, I suppose it's possible, but I disassembled my two Saginaw carbines one at a time and recorded the information from each. Can you elaborate, please?
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35 Whelen, please check what you posted, it seems you may have mixed up some information on the two you posted.
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Question 1: Serial number - 3632622

 Question 2: Initials above serial number - S'G'

 Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - CAL. 30 MI.

 Question 4: Rear tang - Wide

 Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - No ear

 Question 6: Front and middle left detail - None

 Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - T

 Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - Inland 11-43

 Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - Round
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Question 1: Serial number - 1827397

 Question 2: Initials above serial number - SG

 Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - CAL.  .30 MI

 Question 4: Rear tang - Narrow

 Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - Round

 Question 6: Front and middle left detail -  

 Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - None

 Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - BA No date

 Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - Square
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Here's the requested data from my S.G., the first original carbine I owned. It was in the same family for 70 years, brought back from WWII by the seller's late father-in-law & used for hunting by the late mother-in-law, then his late wife. I believe it to be 100% original, and it has a highwood, oval cut Trimble to S.G. subcontract stock.

1.   33410xx
2.   SG
3.   CAL. .30 Ml
4.   Wide
5.   No ear
6.   1/8''
7.   No marks present
8.   SAGINAW SG DIV. GENERAL MOTORS
9.   Round


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Question 1: Serial number -  3576699

 

Question 2: Initials above serial number -   S'G'

 

Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - period after CAL and another preceding 30, Ml font is Sans Serif

 

Question 4: Rear tang - Narrow

 

Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - squared ear

 

Question 6: Front and middle left detail – None detected

 

Question 7: Receiver bottom detail – None Detected

 

Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date – Buffalo Arms, 7-1943

 

Question 9: Rear slide cut detail – Squared 

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Question 2: Initials above serial number - I posted S' G' 

                   On my receiver above the serial number is stamped the following
                 
                   SAGINAW S' G'
                   3554194

 I hope this clears up the 2nd question.
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Smile Here is my M1 Saginaw Carbine information!

Question 1: Serial Number - 3554194

Question 2: Initials above serial number - S' G'

Question 3: Front ring details - U.S. CARBINE
                                              CAL.  .30 Ml

Question 4: Rear Tang - Narrow

Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - Squared Ear Note; Area under the rear sight is 
                                                       a Hardness Punch Mark

Question 6: Front and middle left detail - No Markings on the front  R stamped near middle

Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - No marks found

Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - SAGINAW S' G' D V
                                                                GENERAL MOTORS
                                                                No Date found
                                                                P stamped 7-1/8"s  top from the muzzle 

Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - Square

Additional request of Saginaw numbers in slingwell: There are no markings at all anywhere on the
                                                                            stock nor hand-guard. I am sure the woodwork is
                                                                            after market. Cry
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Here is the information from my second Saginaw SG carbine.

Question 1: Serial number - 32954xx

Question 2: Initials above serial number - SG

Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - U.S.CARBINE  (there is a space after CAL.)
                                                                                                       CAL. 30M1

Question 4: Rear tang - wide

Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - no ear

Question 6: Front and middle left detail - nothing on left side of rcvr.

Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - nothing on bottom

Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date -       SAGINAW S.G. DIV           1/8in P - 6 inches from muzzle
                                                                           GENERAL MOTORS           no date
Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - round

This one has Arlington Ordnance import mark under barrel.
It is in an m2 stock with no markings and white paint pen numbers on both sides of the stock. Don't know where it came from.
It does still retain a SG trigger housing.
I hope this furthers your research efforts.
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I bought this carbine recently from Gunbroker. Here is the info you want:

Question 1: Serial number - 34719xx

Question 2: Initials above serial number - SG

Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) -
                      U.S.CARBINE
                         CAL.30MI.          (appears as shown, no spaces)

Question 4: Rear tang - wide

Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - no ear

Question 6: Front and middle left detail - front left: SG  (2/16ths), no other marks on left side

Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - serif A stamped on trigger housing lug

Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - UNDERWOOD 7-43 with badly stamped flaming bomb below and
                    5/32 P below that but visible with type III barrel band, short skirt. The middle of the word UNDERWOOD is barely visible but the date stamp is sharp. The turning marks on the barrel are still visible.

Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - round

Not much finish left on this old soldier. It has a Winchester stock with an RA rebuild mark that probably predates the .U. rebuild mark on the left side. Has a san serif P (3/8in) on the front of the grip, and a very small 1 stamped on the bottom of the grip.
It also probably got the pits in its barrel from storage with the Israeli military as it has the serial number stamped into the left side of the stock under the comb. Also courtesy of one of the rebuilds, has an Inland trigger housing with mixed parts.
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SAGINAW RECEIVER QUESTIONS:                                                                                                        #1  3470733                                                                                                                                        2  SAGINAW S.G.                                                                                                                                3  CAL. 30 M1.                                                                                                                                    4  WIDE TANG- ROUND SLIDE CUT                                                                                                      5  NO EAR RECEIVER                                                                                                                          6  SMALL SG 1/8 LEFT REC.                                                                                                                7  BOTTOM TRIG. HSG. LUG MARKED A                                                                                                8  BARREL SAGINAW S.G. DIV.  (NO DATE)
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Question 1: Serial number - 3254748

Question 2: Initials above serial number - SG

Question 3: Front ring details (use a capitol i for sanserif one) - CAL. .30 MI

Question 4: Rear tang - Narrow

Question 5: Rear left receiver detail - No ear

Question 6: Front and middle left detail - No letters or numbers

Question 7: Receiver bottom detail - J on lug

Question 8: Barrel manufacturer and date - SAGINAW S.G. DIV.
     GENERAL MOTORS

Question 9: Rear slide cut detail - Round

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thank you,
We are also looking for a little info on the Italian carbines

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1.  S/N 3,496,712
2.  S.G.
3.  CAL. 30 MI. (Sans serif M1, period after CAL, no period preceding 30, period after M1)
4.  Wide tang
5.  No ear
6.  Small SG on left side front (2/16”), no other letters
7.  Capital “O” on bottom of trigger housing lug
8.  Underwood 3-44 barrel
9.  End of rear slide cut is round

(This was one of the Midway USA Italian carbines.)
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