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    Posted: Jun 19 2019 at 2:47pm
I got mine from a private party.
It's marked A.E.T. with the crossed cannon motif, and a date of 1955.  Its is serial number 13349.
Appears unissued.
Scabbard is unmarked in any way. Green paint and Italian webbing.
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I just received my 3rd Italian bayonet purchased from a private seller on Ebay. With shipping it was just under $45. Condition of the bayonet appears unissued, condition of the scabbard is used and repainted with khaki colored fabric. M8 copy marked A.E.T., dated 1955, SN 12058.
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WJH1958,

Your 1955 bayonet serial number makes sense, and expands the upper serial number range for that year. The serial number you indicate (122794) that has a 1958 date does not correlate with other data. The numbers can be difficult to read...Could you please double check if serial number 122794 is 1959 dated, instead of 1958?

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I bought 2 ` date 1958 s/n 122794 and 1955 s/n 31094 i'll try to post some pics of both - both look as if they have not been used - hope this helped
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Originally posted by WJH1958 WJH1958 wrote:

Not sure under what topic it was they wanted s/n's of any of us that purchased these bayonets - i bought 2 - s/n 122794  and s/n 31094 hope this helps

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WJH1958,

Thanks for the serial numbers...Could you please provide the date on each serialed blade, and a description of condition, as well as scabbard characteristics? If you look back through the thread, you'll see a spreadsheet that has many other examples of the data requested.

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Not sure under what topic it was they wanted s/n's of any of us that purchased these bayonets - i bought 2 - s/n 122794  and s/n 31094 hope this helps

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Thanks i've been on this site (Carbine Collectors) just for a few days -  I ordered 2 at $32.95 - sure seems like a great group here and have helped me a lot so far.
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Originally posted by Peka02 Peka02 wrote:


  I have two. One 1957 from Classic #49149, and one from Midway U.S.A. 1959 #19372. Both have repainted scabbards. Both have a small hair line crack at the very end of the scabbard. Blades are excellent, but the grips have small marks.
Both are A.E.T.


Peka02,

Could you please double check the dates and serial numbers on both your bayonets? Neither one correlates to the sequence that has been established for them.

Originally posted by He Dog He Dog wrote:


From Midway, sold as Grade 1, ATE with crossed cannons and flaming bomb, marked 1960, but 6 hard to distinguish from 5 (used 10X), brown bakelite grip. 86844   Appears unused, fiberglass scabbard.
Not correct with anything I own, but for the price...



He Dog,

I would also like to see if you can confirm the serial number and date on your bayonet. That serial number should be 1958 or 1959, from what we have seen so far.

Here is an update to the list:



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Received an Italian M4 bayonet as a recent birthday gift from my oldest son.  He got it from an antique gun dealer down near Camp Lejeune, NC back in November.

It is marked "A.E.T. w/crossed cannon and a "1960"date.  Its is serial number 146557.

It is used, but appears in very good condition. The M8 scabbard also looks to be in very good condition.

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From Midway, sold as Grade 1, ATE with crossed cannons and flaming bomb, marked 1960, but 6 hard to distinguish from 5 (used 10X), brown bakelite grip.  86844   Appears unused, fiberglass scabbard.
 
Not correct with anything I own, but for the price...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Peka02 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 20 2018 at 7:10pm
  I have two. One 1957 from Classic #49149, and one from Midway U.S.A. 1959 #19372. Both have repainted scabbards. Both have a small hair line crack at the very end of the scabbard. Blades are excellent, but the grips have small marks. Both are A.E.T.

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I received my Italian m4 from Midway yesterday.  It is a Arsenale Esercito Torino marked dated 1960.  Serial number 138302. Ordered a Class 1 and that is exactly what I got. Unissued.  Never sharpened, only wear on blade is from being put in the scabbard once.  Bakelite grip is in excellent condition.  Scabbard show a little wear with a little dirt, but otherwise excellent with solid fiberglass.  Worth every penny and a nice addition for my late CMP FAT Inland.  

Total cost for me out the door $30 bucks including shipping and NRA roundup.  
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Originally posted by Glen in Fla Glen in Fla wrote:

Midway is blowing them out, grade 1 for $22 bucks and change.


Interesting that they are selling the grade 1's for less than they are selling the grade 2's.
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Midway is blowing them out, grade 1 for $22 bucks and change.

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I got mine today only 3 1/2 days after ordering, the bayonet looks new, it has not been sharpened, the blade has been coated with grease.
A, partial box and a D are stamped under the grips can't make out what is in the box.
It has no belt hooks
No. is 103556
On the other side of the blade base, there is something there but it's too hard to make out what it is, the metal is to rough.
No Date can be seen
No Mfr. can be seen
The blade is not finished very well, has small pitting etc.
The scabbard is a repaint over chipped paint, no markings on it at all.

I have a repro. that looks better than this, the blade is smooth well finished and it has a ringed leather grip.
Scabbard is marked US M8A1 US SPEC and has belt hooks

I don't want to discurage anyone, maybe just my luck of the draw.


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Got a Italian bayonet from Midway yesterday (09/26/18) sold as Grade 1, markings: A.E.T., 1960, number 146893, both bayonet/scabbard appear to be new/unissued, scabbard does not have a belt hanger, fiberglass, M-8 Style, paid $24.82, Good Buy !!
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Still available, I ordered one.
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AET, crossed cannons/ flaming bomb, 1956, SN# 39039, unissued in cosmoline

M8 copy scabbard, chips and nicks w/ circular round sticky label '22'

Midway USA grade 1
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I've updated the spreadsheet with the latest member data.



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Originally posted by GotSnlB28 GotSnlB28 wrote:

I've ordered a few of these and here is what I got:
Classic F.:
AET 1959 s/n 118776, NOS, repainted unmarked m8 scabbard
MidwayUSA Grade 1:
AET 1959 s/n 96242, NOS, repainted unmarked m8 scabbard
AET 1960 s/n 127835, NOS, repainted unmarked m8 scabbard
AET 1960 s/n 142241, NOS, repainted unmarked m8 scabbard

Out of my Midway orders, I had to return 2 grade 1's. One was well used and the bayonet guard weld had separated. The second bayonet was nice but the cloth on the scabbord was very frayed and torn across the entire right side.


The one I ordered looks unused and has  AET w/cross cannons, flaming bomb & 1958 on one side. The number 85382 is on the other side of the blade near the grip.
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