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New2brass ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Dan Pinto, Photo Editor Joined: Nov 29 2015 Location: CT Status: Offline Points: 4495 |
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Complete is subjective and you have to know what makes it complete.
Next is if the unit actually works. Then is it working because someone modified it or is it original. Take a good look at the few posts and articles we have on them to get an idea of what came in the case. Also read the MWO article and you will find that some parts were to be discarded from the cases.
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kro1970 ![]() On Point ![]() Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: Central Florida Status: Offline Points: 299 |
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If it's complete with all the spare parts, tool pouch and box that's a good price.
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W5USMC ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 29 2017 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 2862 |
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Just curious, what is a reasonable price for an M3 Scope. Saw one at a gun show this past weekend, I believe the seller was asking $1500.
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New2brass ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Dan Pinto, Photo Editor Joined: Nov 29 2015 Location: CT Status: Offline Points: 4495 |
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Article that mentions the M3 scope
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patrickduis ![]() On Point ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 12 2016 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 270 |
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Really nice topic this.
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Various Inlands, Underwoods, I.B.M.s and an NPM
NVBIW, NVWHT, NVBMB, KNSA member Conservator Military Historical Museum Achtmaal U.S. 104th I.D. Timberwolves www.militairhistorischmuseumachtmaal.nl |
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sleeplessnashadow ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: Nov 09 2015 Location: SoCal Status: Offline Points: 1124 |
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Gunsdora
Any chance of getting a series of pics posted of your carbine on top? I saw a few on MilSurps but they did not include the light assmbly or whatever it is that's mounted above the bolt. I have info on a number of prototypes from the National Defense Research Committee (NDRC) and the Engineer Research lab. The band around the stock and handguard is in the info but the light assembly you have is different. Thanks Much Jim |
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1st M1 88 ![]() On Point ![]() Joined: Aug 26 2016 Location: illinois Status: Offline Points: 277 |
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I can remember seeing the batteries for these M3 scopes in the very late
60s at Rocket Surplus, a local military surplus store. If memory serves me well they sold for 3.00 each. They were sold dry and needed filled and charged. Never knew what they were for until I got interested in carbines. |
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sleeplessnashadow ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: Nov 09 2015 Location: SoCal Status: Offline Points: 1124 |
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This series of pics is to illustrate the cut in the stock and handguard for mounting the scope mount designed for the infrared scopes to a carbine. The B&W images are from TM 5-9342 dated August 1951.
When TM 5-9342 was written the bracket for the handgrip that eliminated the need for drilling holes through the bottom of the stock had not been issued yet. I've excluded the pics that show the use of the template and tools for attaching the handgrip directly to the stock. These tools were discontinued with the introduction of the handgrip bracket. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() As indicated above the three holes shown in the bottom of the stock were no longer necessary with the introduction of the handgrip bracket. The pressure from the fit to the stock and handguard coupled with the hole in the top of the bracket thru which the bolt with two nuts protrudes, as seen in the pics below, kept the grip from moving forward. ![]() ![]() |
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You're not going to believe this but; when I was about 8, My father got me one of these as Surplus equip. from the GA National Guard. It was complete in the chest minus batteries. And like any curious 8 yr. old, I took it apart. The pieces then over time were scattered to the wind! Wow, I was a DUMB kid!!
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Thank God, there is a new Sheriff in town!!
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sleeplessnashadow ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: Nov 09 2015 Location: SoCal Status: Offline Points: 1124 |
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American Optical Company 1950 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ...hard to believe but purchased 2 weeks apart from two different sellers.... ![]() Jim P.S. Please see my "Wanted to Buy" post on this forum for an American Optical Battery... |
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gunsdora ![]() Recruit ![]() Joined: Dec 11 2016 Location: canada Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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I see it has the M3 scope mount & scope . Nice to see them pics . Would be nice to find some info with them. Must be a lot more out there .
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gunsdora ![]() Recruit ![]() Joined: Dec 11 2016 Location: canada Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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This 2 carbines are in Newzealand they are not mine. The other M3's on the start of my post are. I have a carbine like on the top rack minus the scope mount & the pistol grip. It has all of the cuts for the scope mount & the strap for the pistol grip. Still looking for them . Will put pics up later. The Dutch Military made the mount & I would guess the pistol grip. They also made the mount & grip for Metric Fal.
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m1a1fan ![]() Hard Corps ![]() ![]() Got Para? Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 1735 |
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Man those are some sweet rides! Has anyone actually used one?
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RedSpecial ![]() On Point ![]() Joined: Apr 03 2016 Location: PBC, FL Status: Offline Points: 124 |
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Wow, you aren't helping. A M3 has been on my want list for a while
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sleeplessnashadow ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: Nov 09 2015 Location: SoCal Status: Offline Points: 1124 |
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We are in an information collection stage but also will be sharing what we learn along the way. Parts are a real handicap and the lack thereof has caused most complete sets and even partial sets to be "reconstructed" with whatever folks can find or make. Understandable but the longer time passes the less parts there will be and the more history will be altered.
If we can pull this off right we're hoping this forum can become a go-to place for buyers, traders and sellers to meet up for these. As it is everyone is spread across the internet. Jim |
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Jim
Don't forget to find some info & parts for the one on top of the M3 in the pic. I do have some info if you cant find. I do have a post up on the Milsurp forum . Been some time but hope hope the pics are still there but could take some time & post here also . ![]() |
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sleeplessnashadow ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: Nov 09 2015 Location: SoCal Status: Offline Points: 1124 |
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Just kind of a heads up to everyone interested. New2Brass and I are headed into a research project on the "Sniperscope Infrared, Set No. 1, 20,000 volts", to include the model M3 scopes and all accessories and attachments.
This is going to take a month to get organized for requesting the sharing of info for those who don't mind sharing. It's time someone documented this history as best can be done. The end product will have it's own pages on the website. We'll be adding information and request for info on the M1/T120 scope and M2 scope with their attachments and accessories a little farther down the line. This is an immense and difficult project that will take some time and we'll need all the help we can get with people sharing information. We're going to make this part of the forum a showcase for these. Thanks much Jim |
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New2brass ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Dan Pinto, Photo Editor Joined: Nov 29 2015 Location: CT Status: Offline Points: 4495 |
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Welcome, good to see you here.
EDIT: to the on lookers, take note of the "Canadian" carbines in the rack! |
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