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W5USMC ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 29 2017 Location: Missouri Status: Online Points: 2864 |
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Remove the slide, leave Bolt in the receiver in open position, insert the field gauge into the chamber, attempt to close the bolt on the gauge, it should Not lock closed on the field gauge.
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Wayne
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floydthecat ![]() Hard Corps ![]() Joined: Oct 13 2016 Location: Mississippi Status: Offline Points: 1928 |
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The action should not close on a field gauge. Using a gutted bolt of course, unless you obtain a gauge modified for use on a loaded bolt.
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Rebel92 ![]() Grunt ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 20 2021 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Status: Offline Points: 541 |
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Update, I have a field gauge and spare bolt on the way
I cant seem to find clear instructions on proper usage. Do I want the Field gauge to close, or not close? Seems to be an elusive topic unless my google skills are lacking. |
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Rebel92 ![]() Grunt ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 20 2021 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Status: Offline Points: 541 |
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It seems the only ones I can find are complete bolts or uncomplete but a similar price.
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W5USMC ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 29 2017 Location: Missouri Status: Online Points: 2864 |
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Yes a type 6 slide will work with an M1 carbine. Bolts are usually priced according to manufacturer and condition. $150 for a complete bolt sounds about right. You should be able to find a stripped bolt a bit cheaper.
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Rebel92 ![]() Grunt ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 20 2021 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Status: Offline Points: 541 |
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I am so impatient, I have been scouring the web searching for a spare bolt. Cheapest bolts I can find are around $150. Is that about the "Going" Rate? And I can use the type 6 (or as the listing site says, "M2 not M1") slide with my m1 carbine, correct? I have found a couple of the type 6 slides for around $80
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Rebel92 ![]() Grunt ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 20 2021 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Status: Offline Points: 541 |
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I do have a 90 degree chamber brush and several recoil springs
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Jond41403 ![]() On Point ![]() Joined: Feb 21 2021 Location: East Tennessee Status: Offline Points: 214 |
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if you're going to be doing a lot of shooting, I would also suggest a spare sear. When they get worn, problems start. Would also invest in a couple recoil springs. The best place to get the recoil springs is on eBay from fellow member Ric player who is a great trusted seller and will be guaranteed original usgi. I would also invest in a nice L-shaped chamber brush because you want to keep the chamber especially clean.hth
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floydthecat ![]() Hard Corps ![]() Joined: Oct 13 2016 Location: Mississippi Status: Offline Points: 1928 |
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Both places, as well as other auction sites and WTB\WTS sections of forums, are good places just to look-and-learn what things are selling for. For sure, stay current with the marketing (for sale) section here on this forum. You will usually get an honest deal from a forum member.
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Rebel92 ![]() Grunt ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 20 2021 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Status: Offline Points: 541 |
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I figured after seeing the price. Any website I may not have discovered yet, or is GB, eBay about my best bets?
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floydthecat ![]() Hard Corps ![]() Joined: Oct 13 2016 Location: Mississippi Status: Offline Points: 1928 |
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That is a commercial bolt. I would not consider it. When you see “new” used to describe a part, you can bet it’s commercial. The low price is also a red flag.
Welcome to the world of figuring all this out! It never hurts to ask. Some parts from Sarco will be ok such as pins, screws and some springs.
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Rebel92 ![]() Grunt ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 20 2021 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Status: Offline Points: 541 |
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Is this USGI? Never purchased from them
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Rebel92 ![]() Grunt ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 20 2021 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Status: Offline Points: 541 |
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thanks Floyd. Can you tell me what a fair price for a stripped or even a complete bolt would be? I entered the carbine market during the pandemic so I don’t know what “reasonable” prices are. Thanks again for your wealth of knowledge. I ask lots of questions but pick up quickly
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floydthecat ![]() Hard Corps ![]() Joined: Oct 13 2016 Location: Mississippi Status: Offline Points: 1928 |
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The round bolt will contain all the updates/changes implemented during manufacture. The general rule-of-thumb is to use the latest issue (type) of any component to get the safest and most reliable version. But, parts interchange forward and backward. The only time I suspected a round bolt might have been superior to a flat bolt was the increase in size and shape of the chin on the round bolt. Maybe it will help feeding issues, but I can’t actually prove it. I did find a round bolt seems to have solved a problem once, but a fresher flat bolt might have worked just as well. I usually don’t prefer one over the other in a shooter. The price, fitment and condition dictates what I use.
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floydthecat ![]() Hard Corps ![]() Joined: Oct 13 2016 Location: Mississippi Status: Offline Points: 1928 |
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The gauge is invaluable in a quick determination of a carbine action and I am not suggesting they are not worth the expense, but they won’t give you a completely accurate assessment. A Field gauge of 1.302 will tell you the action is no longer than 1.302, but it might be 1.301. Failure on a gauge of 1.299 Would dictate an out-of-spec. action, yet there is .003 more life left if you grab a gauge of 1.302. But….that’s the accepted manner of action evaluation.
It’s sort of all academic to me anyway. Nobody has yet produced evidence of a ruptured carbine case due to long head space. The case is fully supported 360-degrees. I have read about case ruptures that were later determined to be due to faulty ammunition, not the carbine.
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Rebel92 ![]() Grunt ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 20 2021 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Status: Offline Points: 541 |
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nice and cheap just the way I like it. Thanks. Any pros/cons about bolt type? (Flat vs round) I only have flat bolts so no experience with round
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Wayne
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Rebel92 ![]() Grunt ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 20 2021 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Status: Offline Points: 541 |
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I cannot find a field gauge anywhere. Let me know if y’all know where to look!
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bonnie ![]() Recruit ![]() Joined: Aug 28 2016 Location: N.C. Status: Offline Points: 89 |
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I cut a set of feeler gauges to use with the go headspace gauge. Cut each gauge to fit inside the bolt face, then placing the headspace gauge on top of that for a measurement. I cut each piece of gauge so the I could see what size it was, ie: .001 or .005, etc. Keep these pieces with the headspace gauge. I can get a pretty close measurement of the exact headspace of any particular carbine.
The thin gauges can be cut with scissors. The thicker ones I used tin snips then smoothed the edges. |
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W5USMC ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 29 2017 Location: Missouri Status: Online Points: 2864 |
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Agree with floydthecat, although I would rather use the gauge. A Forster Field gauge measures 1.299 and a USGI Field gauge measure 1.302. In my earlier post I should have said there is no need for a Go gauge unless changing a barrel, for bolt swaps I only use a Field.
Think I paid $32 for the Forster gauge from Midway. Paid much more for my USGI gauge when I finally found one.
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Wayne
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