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Ruth: SG Stock marked OI/40A, Found OI/39A

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mortar-Forker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 14 2021 at 11:15pm
I don't think they are GM date codes, but it was mentioned and GM methodology is good to consider.

I think batch codes are more likely as they seem somewhat sequential and batch codes would be helpful in tracking parts from multiple suppliers, especially if you want to track a small number of parts in a large run of rifles.

Maybe the plant was stamping them on the way in the door. I don't know and am speculating. It is an interesting question.
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Found a loose S.G. stock....102 B  T3  RSG  Clap
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Originally posted by RWS-67 RWS-67 wrote:

Found a loose S.G. stock....102 B  T3  RSG  Clap

Thanks.  Can you provide some more details of the letter sizes and locations?

Something like this
RSG  
G
105

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There's a low wood/cut down SG on ebay right now, but can't read the slingwell.
It has a vertical mortice in the barrel band location.  Looks hacked.  Probably fixable.
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The RSG is normal size above a larger 102 below.  The B is approx. the same size as the RSG letters... Hope this helps... Rich
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A beat up RSG stock on ebay.

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Thanks.  Oval, Low wood, maybe cut down high wood? 
Stamped on left side 3668745 [seller believes was carbine serial number stamped by IDF]
RSG large upper right 
84 D in middle


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote wick57 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec 03 2021 at 4:29pm
Late to the party here.  I have a SG stock ser # 3357xxx.  


I see IO and 4  6  A.  If you look closely, to me, I also almost see an R in a different font struck lightly before the IO.
Thoughts??
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Originally posted by wick57 wick57 wrote:

Late to the party here.  I have a SG stock ser # 3357xxx.  


I see IO and 4  6  A.  If you look closely, to me, I also almost see an R in a different font struck lightly before the IO.
Thoughts??
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I can see what appears to be an R.  Not sure at all. 
If the stock was made by Robert Irwin, we'd expect the IO to be overstamped on an SG.
If it the stock was made by Overton for Inland, then transfered to Saginaw, why the R?

Comparing with the Overton for Inland stamp on the Stocks webpage, the O looks wider.
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Interesting observation, Matt.  I went back just now and checked height and width of the "O" against another INLAND stock cartouche with calipers.  Both H and W were identical.  Difference in the photos might be a slight angle shift in camera perspective.
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It's pretty easy to determine the difference between Irwin made and Overton made stocks, just look a the nose profile or look for any markings in the barrel channel and slide well since they both used different ink stamps formats there (the slide well).
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Wick57, Can you post a few more photos of the stock?  Esp the nose?
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Hi. Yes I will but it will be several days. I am out of town through the holidays. 
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This is an M1 oval cut, highwood on S.G. 33414xx which I found in original configuration. I won't to attempt to divine what the marks are

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Matt_X -
Here are the additional photos of the nose of the stock you requested.
Any thoughts welcome.
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IBM GB listing in RSG stock: https://gunbroker.com/item/933091320






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Some other sideways X overstamps have shown up on CMP and milsurps recently.
Do we think that is a 101 A?  with an X over the first 1?
From the photos on gun broker I'm going to go with Low wood (Type III)  unless someone thinks its a cut down. 
RSG located high.
Original serial number unknown.

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Charlie sent me some others he's dug up but has been to busy to post.  The Quality Hardware acceptance stamp on the last one adds another twist!

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Either this is the same stock and carbine already on the list, or we have a second example. 
SG 3262XXX  TYPE II
RSG  [high in slingwell]
A  [sideways]  BOMB [sideways] 8 [at 45]


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SG 5861XXX,
TYPE III stock
RSG [middle]
102   [1 has an oval  O overstamp]  


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 [From EBAY STOCK only listing]
TYPE II Stock
RSG
[Bomb sideways]
7 [upside down] C [sideways]

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Unknown Carbine
UNKNOWN STOCK TYPE
 TRIMBLE [Top]
TN
48-D  [Upside down]
TSG 


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QHMC unknown serial number.
[unknown stock type, possible late Type III]
O  [oval  or sideways] RSG [middle]



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LATE QHMC 4,7-4,8
Stock Type ? with QHMC CC
O [middle]
RSG  [bottom]


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Loose Stock discussed on CMP forum http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=299068
Type II
[R] SG [barely visible, slingwell was refinished]
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Originally posted by Matt_X Matt_X wrote:

Some other sideways X overstamps have shown up on CMP

Found it. http://forums.thecmp.org/showpost.php?p=2074842&postcount=437

Stock stamped with -U- post-war Underwood  rebuild ( Inland carbine)
Original carbine unknown
Type III or type II cut down.
RSG [high, partially sanded]
x [sideways] 9 4 B [low]


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5.855 S.G. With an RSG Stock. Sling well has 9 D as well as a faint RSG. The carbine is believed to be as issued. Has SG in the the box as well as the ordnance stamp on the right side. 

It’s very hard to tell, but with the right lighting it appears there may be an 8 or a 9 between the definitive 9 and D making it a possible 98 or 99 D 
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