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    Posted: Feb 26 2018 at 11:06pm
I purchased a carbine at a local gun show and noticed that the receiver had been welded back together. It looks like it was cut in half at one time. Is it safe to shoot and does it hurt the value? Thank you in advance for your help.
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Welcome to the forum.  I would say not to shoot it and yes the value is impacted.  However there are plenty of other folks on the forum who can help evaluate what you have.  Please post some pictures for a better evaluation.
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This is going to be pretty painful. It usually pays to do the research before you buy. Welded receivers are considered junk and dangerous. It may be safe to shoot, but it simply cannot be trusted. Once the receiver has been demilled, it's practically impossible to put two halves back together in-spec. The welds destroy the heat-treatment built into the receiver as well. As far as value, anyone that knows anything about carbines would not give it a second look. I'd imagine the advice would be to see what parts in the gun are GI and part-it-out. We all have those live-n-learn moments and this is one of them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sling00 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb 27 2018 at 12:28pm
Any chance you can return it to the seller?  That would be a first choice.  If not still post some pics and see what happens. If that doesn't turn out well then next best thing would be to piece it out like floydthecat is saying.  Also, you might find an instructor somewhere wanting one for for a classroom demonstration.  I do see such requests every now and then. And yes, we've all been down this rocky road so you aren't alone.       
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote James K Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb 27 2018 at 12:52pm
check out pages 198-199 in Jerry Kuhnhausen's "The Mauser Bolt Actions" as shortening of actions can be done, but need to know how welded, heat sink used, how close to reciever ring and bolt lug area and if any hardness loss in these area's. Lot of unknowns and head scratching here. With out seeing situation, I would probably part out or find another reciever. I know of a smithy in Puyallup, Wa. who welds recievers using Tig.
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It would be enormously helpful to the carbine collector universe if you could post some closeup pictures of your receiver. Such images are extremely rare and it would help educate those who may not know what to look for. Like they say, "One picture is worth a thousand words".

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here is one from a presentation Inland.
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A downright sin to cut up a good M1 carbine receiver! Shame...
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