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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote painter777 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep 17 2020 at 11:09pm
@Gotsnl....,
Agree the Butt plate has plenty of overhang.
Stock has been messed with, that's a fact.

The stock appears to have a clear resin repair (?) to a missing chunk at the bottom left of the boxed WRA/GHD. Where the dripping run and raw scrape travel down toward the oiler and butt plate.
 
Also on the right side of the oiler slot there is a triangular section that must have pulled up and he's tried resin or glue/putty to secure it back down. Look close at the top of the oiler slot and down about 3/4 of it, you'll see it shaped like a > with the point of the > pointing towards the boxed WRA/GHD. 
That area has been heavily sanded and you can see the touched up color is much darker than the rest of the stock. I think only the areas they tried to repair have been sanded.
Had they sanded the entire stock I'd expect to see far fewer scratches and a better overall appearance on the complete stock.

Maybe he wasn't happy with the way those repairs came out. So seems he tried a colored wood putty to fill a couple other spots on the right.
Both on the lower right side near the trigger housing area... 1st between the escutcheon nut and rear of the trigger housing opening. The 2nd low on the right about even with the mag well opening.
 
More patch filling on the left hand side- Looks to have used the same colored putty on the left side at the forward edge of the tapered sling well cut and deep inside the sling well. The one inside the Sling well might be extra filler for the > shaped patch glued back down on the other side.
 
I compared the stamps with 9 different photo files I have here of my own and about 5-6 files Marcus just shared with me of early Winchesters.
Granted the Ebay pictures are poorly done but I'm confident the Stamps are real. 
Shame it wasn't someone with skills that could have done the repairs correctly.

Who ever did the 'Work' was smart enough to not sand over the stamps.
But the Seller only has 5 gloomy pictures up. So that's $100 a picture X 5 = $500 stock plus shipping.
And I quote part of his description: 
"This is one of the rarest World War II carbine rifle’s the least amount made of all rifles."

Never ends does it??

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J saved and rotated the right side pic, the full stock pic. Looking at it with the advantage of what you guys have posted, the overhang looks like it's caused by sanding the top of the stock for the last couple of inches so much that it reshaped it so it doesn't fit the plate right anymore. The heavy drip under the WRA stamp sticks out prominently too. There's a difference in sheen behind the stamps where it was worked over. Maybe it's acetone that was used.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GotSnlB28 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep 18 2020 at 11:43am
Painter, ten, seems like a likely explanation of what happened with this one. It's a shame, valuable stock if it had been treated right. I don't have an early boxed example, but I dug out a sharp unboxed and the CC detail matches. Lines up with all your comparisons.
And yep a total crap description.. I won't be investing the $500 lol but I have saved off the first picture for future reference.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote painter777 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep 18 2020 at 1:05pm
GotSnlB28,
If you searched Milsurps, typing in WRA 1,030,621 you'll find the pictures of my best Boxed WRA/GHD and CC.

If photobucket doesn't still have them held hostage.
I believe some pics are stored on the Surps server.

I haven't been on there in a while....... tired of threads getting locked down by a particular Mod. 
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WRA 1,030,621 sure is a beauty, Charlie!
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painter, your early Winchester is fantastic. Nicest one I've seen.
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