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    Posted: Nov 25 2019 at 7:20pm
I'm pretty sure "tfaith707" on ebay is the same as "m1carbineman", seller of "restored" (and re-stamped) stocks.  To his credit, seller usually states such in his descriptions but in the excitement of finding that stock you've been needing you may forget to read the fine print.  In my opinion, re-stamping cheapens the stock instead of adding value.
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I agree. I saw a stock once where someone ruined a QHMC early high wood with faint large wheel cartouche by stamping it with fake RMC cartouche. I guess they didn't see the QHMC big wheel and figured since it was stamped RMC in the sling well it should be a Rock Ola. Sad!
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Quite simply stated he has the worst stamps I've ever seen, none of them are even close to an original. What's really sad is that someone, not caring if they're real or not, will buy one or more and pass them off to an unsuspecting buyer as authentic...live and learn.
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He used to offer returns, but no longer.
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Quote =hunterman In my opinion, re-stamping cheapens the stock instead of adding value.

My opinion: 
Restamping is a act of Dis-respect.
We are the temporary holders of these artifacts.
Why ruin them over a few dollars of profit ?.
Restoration falls closely with maintenance.... If needed for preservation so be it.
To WHACK a Fake stamp on a stock.... whether disclosed or not, is a slap in the face to the Women and Men who made them. Same people who may of had to take life with them, or who may have died with the stock gripped in hand.
This said after burying a dear friend this week who carried a M2 carbine on his 4 man ACU boat on his first of 3 combat tours in Vietnam. He couldn't have told you if it had a Crossed Cannons stamp on it or not. 

Does this seller need some extra Cash? Get a job and Pound some nails........ !!
Nope... he won't do that, he's gotta take a 1/2 a$$ China made knockoff stamp and crush it in to the Walnut of a 1940's WWII gun stock. A stock made by people working a couple jobs and dealing with rationing and scrap drives... etc.
Here he can pound away because he can feel and act like he's a Skilled Craftsman, sell it for profit to those that don't yet know any better and because it's easier to cheat a buyer like that than put some elbow and a$$hole in to some real work for a wage.
I say pull the Scab and lock him up where he can pound large rocks in to smaller rocks.

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Well said painter777. I have a Saginaw that I've had for 40 plus years. It's all Saginaw except for rear sight, stock with rebuild stamps, hand guard, and sling. For me this carbine is original in that this is the way it came from military storage until it was sold as surplus. jmho.
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Seller is now operating an ebay as "roac_kando".  He went from "m1carbineman" to "tfaith707" to "ozark..(something)".  Now he is "roac_kando".  Sometimes he admits the stocks are re-stamped,  other times he doesn't.  Beware of any of his stocks.  All his identities are out of Aurora, Missouri.
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I wondered if it wasn't the same slime ball. Thanks for verifying and posting.
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This old post from when he was m1carbineman, him and hdeagle buying stamps from ole Bardall1. Now no longer able to see buyers name since Bardall1 started using 'Private Listings'.


ozarkian2020
 is still selling...... Compare listings and picture style, ship price, no returns, definition of 'Restored', to include restamping, loves using his circled P proof stamp and from Aurora
  




roac_kando 
Looks to be the same seller, same style listings with less description. Similar picture layouts just different color background, also from Aurora and no returns.







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The other give-away is the town.  Aurora, Missouri has only 7500 people. 
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Originally posted by hunterman hunterman wrote:

  Aurora, Missouri has only 7500 people. 

And two of them hump carbine stocks, what a coincidence. Shocked 
I like the one guys line "Some stamps have been renewed" 
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I hate it when jerks stamp stocks, they usually don't get the stamp correct and then it is
a "fresh" stamp on a well used stock.

As far as I'm concerned, "they" just took the stock out of the collectible arena and made it a shooter at best.

"They" should be stamped on the forehead with a "faker" stamp. JMHO.

Same opinion on "parts" fakers too.
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I'm sure his Wife is having to do her share of Faking !  Wink

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Before I knew who this person was I contacted him about an LEAD potbelly Carbine stock he was selling, telling him I had one in terrible condition if he was interested. He paid $50 for it, plus shipping.
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Originally posted by W5USMC W5USMC wrote:

Originally posted by hunterman hunterman wrote:

  Aurora, Missouri has only 7500 people. 

And two of them hump carbine stocks, what a coincidence. Shocked 
I like the one guys line "Some stamps have been renewed" 


"Another" eBay stock restorer from Aurora, Missouri.  This time he's going by "hiddensprings2020".
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This one's a beauty: https://www.ebay.com/itm/402188233034
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The folks on this forum that shed light on such unscrupulous vendors do us a great service. Hats off to you. 
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I thought that one was shady
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The picture isn't very good.
But I don't see anything jumping out as fake.

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painter, it's possible I pulled the "fake" trigger too quickly on this one... Another picture from the listing shows what appears to be buttplate overhang, which is usually means the stock was sanded after mfg so how could the acceptance stamp be so good? That was a red flag for me. Might just be the picture. Overall stamp just looks too perfect for the stock.
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