Replacement Stock Saginaw

Gene, did you ever get an answer to this?

Is it marked RSG or is the stamp SG and at bottom of sling well?
If so I suspect if you look real close at top there may be more markings

Dan and Marty   Thanks for the respond Here are afew pic's of the stock Marty your description was right on Thanks, Gene

https://goo.gl/photos/wbhM2ECk82vjyteFA

Works for me, looks like it was fixed. When I post links, I have to hit the link button, then paste the address in a box, hit ok and then another box is presented. It has http:// in it, which I remove and paste the address again. Then hit ok and a link is created. How the interface works, depends on the device used, I think.

OK I forgot the insert image box.   Getting old and when I don't post images often I forget. Thanks M1a1

The one with the assumed fake Win CC, any rebuild marks. Maybe SA?

Thanks Gene....I'm surprised that the sling well shows only SG...I think mine was the common RSG mark. The sideway 0 in the sling well cut shows that it's a Saginaw item, not a Grand Rapids part. Say, by coincidence, I was going thru an old box of papers today and found the paper bag that my spare SG stock came in! Do you want it?
If so, send me your snail mail address.

Regards, Marty Black

    I do not have a S.G. Saginaw stock with the stamps on the right side to compare sling well stampings. I have two S'G' stocks and their RSG stamps are smaller in size compared to the replacement socks RSG. So are the S.G.'s RSG stamps larger??? The 3rd RSG stamped stock has the same size stamp as the replacement, which I'm thinking must be a replacement also. below the RSG is stamped 84C.

     Dan I think your right about the ghost R   But you sure have to us alittle imagination, but the grain is defiantly pushed down on the right side of the R??. Thanks

     Marty   I would like the bag. If you have a Larson book, how does read compare to the one on page 131. Just curious. I'll send you a PM with my home address. Thanks    

Hi again Gene,

I don't have the Larson book, so I can't compare nuttin'.

And I'm not sure about the size of the RSGs on Saginaw stocks. I agree that the RSG on S'G' stocks tends to be uniform and small, and some Saginaw stocks I've seen have had larger letters.....but I haven't seen enough original Saginaw stocks, nor have I paid that close of attention to them, to make any generalizations. We need guys to submit photos to the forum.

It does seem odd that Robert Irwin Co. was making stocks for both contracts (S'G' and SG), and marking them both RSG. Why should there be any difference in the size of the letters, between the contracts? Unless the stamps wore out and were replaced with larger fonts? That's another mystery for us.

And one would think that replacement stocks would be marked with the same RSG. Each carbine manufacturer had to supply spare parts with every shipment of carbines, so it doesn't make sense that spare parts would be marked (for identification) any different than those assembled on the carbine itself.

The only "foolproof?" way I know to differentiate a Saginaw stock from a Grand Rapids stock (assuming the crossed-cannons cartouche is missing), are the letters/numbers that you find in the sling well. Those are Saginaw stocks. I've seen enough original SG and S'G' carbines over the decades, to put money on that statement. What were those marks? I dunno - we can assume they were inspector marks of some kind - like Inland's "hieroglyphics" on the barrel flat or the funny little shapes we sometimes see on bolt lugs or elsewhere on stocks.

We've seen a large capital A stamp in the oiler slot of original carbines of different manufacturers! Who WAS that guy?!   Had to be an Ordnance Inspector, right? Ordnance Inspectors would be the only "common denominator" among the manufacturers.

Lots to ponder! Think about how boring Garands are, in comparison!

Another odd thing - over the decades, the Carbine Club had far fewer reports of original SG carbines, than we had S'G' and IP. Why is that? Saginaw made a lot of carbines, but either they suffered a higher attrition rate in wartime use, or collectors had less interest in them, compared to the more exotic S'G' and IP carbines. JB Powers called that "selective reporting."   

Admittedly, Saginaw carbines can be a bit boring, I suppose. There are no interesting variations among them, they are all basically the same shade of gray-green. You've seen one, you've seen them all? From the beginning of carbine collecting, everyone was always on the hunt for IPs and S'G's (especially those with IP parts!). The fairly-rare 5.8 million range Saginaws never attracted much collector attention either.

Regards, Marty Black