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Select Fire M1A1/ M2A1 para

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Topic: Select Fire M1A1/ M2A1 para
Posted By: Mpigott271
Subject: Select Fire M1A1/ M2A1 para
Date Posted: Mar 16 2023 at 11:13am
I am sure this has been asked but I can't find a direct answer. 
  Is there a select fire version if the paratrooper carbine?
 Some sources say yes others say no.  Others say there were field modified versions. 
    I have a paratrooper stock with the selector switch cut out and all of the other markings in the proper places but no 'OI' in the barrel channel. 



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Posted By: W5USMC
Date Posted: Mar 16 2023 at 11:26am
Page down to the "And Beyond" section of the link below.
http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/modelM1A1.html" rel="nofollow - The U.S. Caliber .30 Carbines, Model M1A1 (uscarbinecal30.com)


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Wayne
USMC Retired
NRA Life Member


Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Mar 16 2023 at 11:49am
Originally posted by Mpigott271 Mpigott271 wrote:

    I have a paratrooper stock with the selector switch cut out and all of the other markings in the proper places but no 'OI' in the barrel channel. 


Does the selector cut and bridge inside show signs of being done after manufacture?

There are commercial M1a1 stocks that have the selector cut. Maybe post pictures of the markings.


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Posted By: thirtyround
Date Posted: Mar 16 2023 at 12:37pm
Common practice in Vietnam throughout services. Original Para stocks, I dont believe were factory relieved for the switch, so they were modified. Popular in CIA ops there as well as, and beyond that time frame. Lots of Lads used and seen this and brought these ideas home. Even seen a couple of M2's in Para stocks in Afghanistan in 2003. Cheers JB


Posted By: Mpigott271
Date Posted: Mar 16 2023 at 12:42pm
some pictures as requested. 


Posted By: Mpigott271
Date Posted: Mar 16 2023 at 3:23pm
I would say yes.  The former location of the bridge is not level with the rest of milled fore stock.  Both areas looked like they were done long ago. 


Posted By: carbinekid
Date Posted: Mar 16 2023 at 5:41pm
Well that’s far from the typical hack job you see. Does the rest of the stock appear authentic? The hardware, wire buttstock, etc?


Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Mar 16 2023 at 5:53pm
Hmm, I have never handled a Springfield Armory replacement stock.
Any of the M1a1 guys know how to tell them from the OI stocks?


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Posted By: Mpigott271
Date Posted: Mar 16 2023 at 6:46pm
Yes, all of the marks are correct; P, AAS rebuild stamp, OI and cannon on the bottom of the pistol grip. The metal parts are in accordance with the ".... And Beyond " section as well as the book, "U.S. M1 Carbines, Wartime Prodution."
    There is a comment in that book that states in part, "These are not correct military issue."


Posted By: Dirty30Carbine
Date Posted: Mar 16 2023 at 7:22pm
I have seen and handled multiple “M2a1” stocks. All of them appeared to me an after production modification. I know several were IO stocks and both highwood and low wood, I’m unsure if any were SA stocks.



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