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QHMC ~9/43

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Topic: QHMC ~9/43
Posted By: Rebel92
Subject: QHMC ~9/43
Date Posted: Oct 21 2021 at 9:37am
My new to me carbine. My 2nd one. Think I did pretty good. Has a RMC marked stock, and undated Rock-Ola Barrel which indicates its correct. Still trying to get the bugs sorted out with it so I can shoot it successfully. What do yall think about it? 























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Posted By: 1st M1 88
Date Posted: Oct 21 2021 at 11:03am
Nice looking carbine.  Hope you get it running well.


Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Oct 21 2021 at 3:00pm
With some help from fellow forum members, I discovered the issue. It was not the carbine, but actually the ammo. The chamber is so tight, that the commercial ammo would stick, but not military surplus. Armscor vs Korean milsurp ammo using the plunk test. 


Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Oct 21 2021 at 3:47pm


Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Oct 22 2021 at 5:44pm
Is this common to see on the barrel by gas cylinder?  Can’t find that out 


Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Jan 12 2022 at 4:23pm


Posted By: welbytwo
Date Posted: Jan 12 2022 at 9:33pm
any I-cut highwood is pure-n-sexy carbine porno! LOL


Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Jan 12 2022 at 10:19pm
I swear this was an accident but it’s totally the same gun haha


Posted By: HammerGrunt
Date Posted: Jan 13 2022 at 9:26pm
Awesome looking early carbine, and love the look-alike picture!


Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Jan 13 2022 at 10:15pm
Awesome looking early carbine, and love the look-alike picture!


Thanks, I was watching S.P.R. After I got it and noticed they were twins so I had to get a picture and have my wife who’s more tech savvy make me a side by side picture LOL


Posted By: Bubba-7
Date Posted: May 06 2022 at 12:36pm
I don't see anything that jumps out to me that should not be there.  Some push safeties are marked inside on the flat.  And the stamps can be very light.  So clean it real good and strong light.
GE-Q rear sights have been faked so a close up of the rear sight would be needed to tell for sure.  But its location in the dovetail is correct for a real sight.


Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Jun 06 2022 at 10:58pm



Posted By: carbinekid
Date Posted: Jun 07 2022 at 8:59am
That’s a real GE-Q sight and a very nice carbine overall!


Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Jun 07 2022 at 9:20am
Thanks, i think its purdy. Its got a cool patina, seems more "used" than my other carbines. Also, the stock is my favorite. 


Posted By: Jond41403
Date Posted: Jun 07 2022 at 10:57am
Well rebel, there's one real flipsight you already have to compare against some of the fakes out there haha. Nice looking carbine!


Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Jun 07 2022 at 2:31pm
Thanks, I am pretty fond of it. And yes, I think i see one difference, but nothing more than that. If anyone cares to tell me more signs to look for, please PM me :) I have learned a couple of things, but IDK how good they are on sights that are not installed



Posted By: Timothy
Date Posted: Jun 09 2022 at 12:18am
I like the look of that quarter-sawn walnut stock. Don’t see that slice too often.

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T R


Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Jun 09 2022 at 11:22am
Originally posted by Timothy Timothy wrote:

I like the look of that quarter-sawn walnut stock. Don’t see that slice too often.

I havent ever heard of "quarter-sawn" care to elaborate??


Posted By: john843
Date Posted: Jun 09 2022 at 8:19pm
Quarter-sawn

http://www.hardwooddistributors.org/postings/what-is-quarter-sawn-wood" rel="nofollow - http://www.hardwooddistributors.org/postings/what-is-quarter-sawn-wood


Posted By: Timothy
Date Posted: Jun 09 2022 at 9:09pm
Sorry for the woodworking nerd in me. I like quartersawn wood in furniture, and it is unusual to see it in gunstocks. Plain-sawn (AKA flat-sawn) wood is often beautiful on gun stocks. 
Here are a couple pics showing the how the grain appearance can differ depending on how it is milled from the log (see John’s link above).






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T R


Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Jun 09 2022 at 11:13pm
I learn something new everyday! I knew the wood looked different but didn’t know there was a name for it 


Posted By: Sawbones
Date Posted: Jun 12 2022 at 8:58am
Plunk test?  What's that and what does it tell me?

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"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemingway


Posted By: john843
Date Posted: Jun 12 2022 at 3:04pm
Originally posted by Sawbones Sawbones wrote:

Plunk test?  What's that and what does it tell me?



Sawbones, I think the "plunk test" is simply dropping a round
manually straight down into the chamber to see if it drops and seats into it
without any assistance.

John


Posted By: floydthecat
Date Posted: Jun 12 2022 at 4:43pm
Originally posted by john843 john843 wrote:

Originally posted by Sawbones Sawbones wrote:

Plunk test?  What's that and what does it tell me?



Sawbones, I think the "plunk test" is simply dropping a round
manually straight down into the chamber to see if it drops and seats into it
without any assistance.

John

Yep….the term has been around for a long time. Drop-in a round and see how it lands in the chamber. You can also tell a little bit about how a barrel might head space….how deep or how high the rim sits.


Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Jun 12 2022 at 10:36pm
Yep, FTC told me what the plunk test was. That simple test told me a lot about what bullet profiles a carbine did/didn’t like. 

I find it interesting that my only picky carbine, a QHMC, is also the same manufacturer as Sawbones Carbine, which he states also doesn’t like commercial ammo’s different bullet ogive When compared to milsurp


Posted By: floydthecat
Date Posted: Jun 13 2022 at 9:13am
Collector is one thing shooter is another. A shooter….maybe chase the chamber with a finish reamer to make it shoot whatever commercial is on the shelf. Of course one can reload to make it work, but not much bothers me as much as a gun that won’t shoot ammo that’s made for it. “Chase” is a touch and it doesn’t take much. Could be the fault of the ammo, but by far most carbines will chamber and shoot whatever is on the shelf.


Posted By: Sawbones
Date Posted: Jun 14 2022 at 4:22pm
Rebel92 sent me an assortment of cartridges to run thru my Chrony.  All the milsurp rounds fed beautifuly w/ no hang-ups.  The non-milsurp rounds were loaded w/ copper plate projectiles seated in low 1.670s".  100% of the non-milsurps mis-fed in my QHMC so  I seated the bullets to ~ 1.660 and still 100% misfeeds.  Close inspection (w/ magnification) of the seated copper plate projectiles revealed NO ogive.  I pulled the bullet, inspected w/ magnification to find the ogive on that copper plated bullet was 1/3 the the buulet length up from the base whereas milsurp and other non-milsurp bullets the ogive is 2/3 up length from the base of the bullet.  Me thinks the ogive being so close to the base of copper plate bullet is by design to be seated at the max SAAMI length of 1.680" instead of the typical milsurp of 1.660" give or take a3-4 thousandths either direction.  Am I crazy?


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"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemingway


Posted By: floydthecat
Date Posted: Jun 14 2022 at 7:26pm
My carbines eat those x-tremes like corn going thru a goose and I don’t get real scientific about the seating depth. Ethan will surely sign in here soon, but he shoots a lot of them also, but I don’t know which carbine he shoots the most. I have not seen any comments concerning issues with those projectiles. 



Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Jun 14 2022 at 7:38pm
Floyd is correct, my carbines do fine with the xtreme projectiles (with the baby ogive) but my QHMC WILL NOT CHAMBER Armscor, or even the Bayou Bullet profile. It doesn’t like the fat ogives. I guess it’s a “fat shamer” and only likes them skinny LOL. But yes, the xtreme projectile profiles seem to work wel in all mine. And I seat them less than 1.678, usually closer to 1.67 even 


Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Jul 11 2022 at 1:38pm
I just noticed, I think I was wrong when I said "9/43" production. It was slightly earlier right? 


Posted By: W5USMC
Date Posted: Jul 11 2022 at 2:58pm
Maybe a couple months earlier.

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Wayne
USMC Retired
NRA Life Member


Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Jul 11 2022 at 5:17pm
Thanks Wayne. I knew it wasnt much, but was just looking at the estimated serial number production dates somewhere else online and saw QHMC's made in September would have been in the 4 mil serial number block.


Posted By: Rebel92
Date Posted: Jul 18 2022 at 7:24pm
Sorry I was lazy. Jus took my safety and mag catch out. Data sheet needs updating. Safety IS marked. “Q-NL”





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