Bad News, looks like the Korean Surplus is gone
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Topic: Bad News, looks like the Korean Surplus is gone
Posted By: DonFlynn
Subject: Bad News, looks like the Korean Surplus is gone
Date Posted: Nov 07 2020 at 10:18pm
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Only a couple places left and they ain't cheap. I snagged 9 more bandoleers from SG Ammo Tuesday morning, figured I wait to see who won before I made another order and now their out. There was a outfit called Outdoor Limited that had 100 cases Tuesday nite I was using as a back up (their shipping was a tad higher than SG), they sold that out by Friday. I'll have 2000 some rounds of Korean when my last order gets here this week ,plus 3500 rounds assorted Armscor and S&B. It'll have to due, I figure when I run through the Korean I'll park my Carbines until someone gets more of anything decent back in, and the prices will suck for sure. At least I'm in better shape than after the Newtown shooting, I only had a few 100 rounds on hand then with 4 Carbines. It was 1/2 the reason I sold the 2 "commercials" I had then..... I've 5 now plus another Fulton Armory on order. Hopefully next year we'll see something we can shoot. No plans on selling this time, I'll ride it out
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Posted By: choprboy
Date Posted: Nov 08 2020 at 2:03am
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I would give it a few days. SG Ammo trickles their stock onto the website. I bought a case of the Korean surplus a few weeks ago when they showed they had 3 in stock. The following Monday they suddenly had 9 in stock again... The Korean case and bandoleer options don't even show up at the moment, where as old 0 stock items are there. So I'm guessing the advertised stock is out, will probably show 5-10 again come Monday or Tuesday. That said, the rush on ammo for the last year is serious putting a crimp on my collection of vintage rifles. Jap 6.5 now costs as much as 50BMG did at the beginning of the year and French/Swiss 7.5 is getting expensive too. |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Nov 08 2020 at 7:42am
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I hope your right but I ain't getting my hopes up. There had to be a limited amount of it out there anyway so eventually it'll run out. I'd been shooting my Carbines mainly this summer and fall because I could snag the Korean at a decent price. I even "tuned up" (new springs and a new extractor) the Plainfield commercial carbine I bought over the summer so I could use it as my main plinker Carbine. I figure the 2000 rounds Korean is my "shooting stash" for now, 3000 Armscor my reserve stash and I'm saving a case of 500 for the new Fulton Armory when it gets here in February (I hope, unless our new libtard overlords try their anti gun crap before it's done)
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Posted By: Marty Black
Date Posted: Nov 08 2020 at 11:17am
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We're all very aware of the highly emotional gun control issues that have been surrounding us for decades. But let's try to keep the politics and the name-calling out of our posts. Thanks, Marty Black ------------- Marty Black |
Posted By: Donnie
Date Posted: Nov 08 2020 at 2:31pm
| I'm glad I bought a can of the Korean ammo last month. I wasn't sure i got it at a bargain price, but at least got some. Geez, its one thing for the 9mm and other popular ammo to disappear. But, come on man, now 30 carbine?! Can't even find it locally anywhere on the shelves. The real question is whether ammo shortages are going to get worse before it gets better and for how long? |
Posted By: bonnie
Date Posted: Nov 08 2020 at 3:46pm
| https://ammoseek.com/ammo/30-carbine" rel="nofollow - https://ammoseek.com/ammo/30-carbine still shows a couple of ammo sellers with Korean Carbine for sale. |
Posted By: jackp1028
Date Posted: Nov 08 2020 at 3:50pm
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You can still get Korean surplus carbine ammo here: https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/pName/1080rds-30-carbine-korean-military-surplus-110gr-fmj-ammo-in-ammo-can" rel="nofollow - https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/pName/1080rds-30-carbine-korean-military-surplus-110gr-fmj-ammo-in-ammo-can And here: https://www.jgsales.com/-p-104563.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.jgsales.com/-p-104563.html It's costing a little bit more but still available. ------------- JackP |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Nov 08 2020 at 8:03pm
J&G wants $49 bucks for shipping
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jackp1028 wrote:Posted By: choprboy
Date Posted: Nov 11 2020 at 12:39am
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It is Tuesday and SG Ammo now has listed: - 8 cans of 1080 rounds - 47 bandoliers of 120 rounds ... trickle stock, nailed it. In other news the price has gone way, way up, glad I ordered a few weeks ago. |
Posted By: W5USMC
Date Posted: Nov 11 2020 at 12:55am
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Wow that is a heck of a price increase, also glad I ordered a couple weeks ago. Sure hope .50 cents a round is not going to be the new norm. ------------- Wayne USMC Retired NRA Life Member |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Nov 11 2020 at 8:43am
Holy price jumps Batman  That price I'll use Ammoseek and if I have to pay that price just order new production ammo. Right now I can find this in stock and even with the shipping it's cheaper than what SG is wanting nowhttps://miwallcorp.com/fiocchi-ammunition-30-carbine-110-grain-full-metal-jacket/ Only reason I ain't ordering a case of 500 now is I just got my last case of Korean from SG, that gives me 2000 rounds of that, it'll hold me for awhile plus my reserve stock of 3000.
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Posted By: 03manV
Date Posted: Nov 11 2020 at 9:16am
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We knew that the Korean surplus is a finite quantity, so it is not surprising that it is reaching the "end". Merchants know the law of supply and demand; it is natural that the price begins to go up as the seemingly vast quantity gets bought and stored away by guys like us! I fully expect that the new "norm" will be significantly higher for months or maybe a year; or until the panic buying and hoarding stops. JMHO.  ------------- Don |
Posted By: 1989LX
Date Posted: Nov 11 2020 at 5:01pm
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Glad I ordered a couple bandoliers a few weeks back! ------------- USGI magazines are like potato chips, you can't have just one! |
Posted By: Beezer
Date Posted: Nov 11 2020 at 7:07pm
| I ordered quite a bit and have been saving brass for reloading. On a side note, I thought I would check out SG Ammo for the price of .300 blackout and .303 british. SG Ammo site keeps coming up as “Site offline”. Anyone else seeing this? |
Posted By: choprboy
Date Posted: Nov 11 2020 at 7:37pm
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It comes up for me, but they use Cloudflare as a front end proxy,so maybe your hitting a different server. I would try doing a hard refresh: <ctlr>+F5. That said, at the moment SGAmmo is showing 0 stock of both. |
Posted By: W5USMC
Date Posted: Nov 11 2020 at 7:48pm
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They are showing 42 bandoliers and 9 cans in stock for me? ------------- Wayne USMC Retired NRA Life Member |
Posted By: Beezer
Date Posted: Nov 11 2020 at 7:59pm
| The site offline error had a fine print saying due to overwhelming orders, they will be shutting their site down for a few hours |
Posted By: choprboy
Date Posted: Nov 11 2020 at 8:35pm
I meant 0 stock for the 300 blackout and 303 british. 42 and 9 for the 30 carbine. |
Posted By: jeepwm69
Date Posted: Nov 12 2020 at 5:11pm
I remember buying 7.62x51 for .10/round shipped, and 5.56 a little cheaper than that. Surplus ammo doesn't stay around long, especially in today's market. When you see it, you better be quick, or it will be gone.
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Posted By: Beezer
Date Posted: Nov 13 2020 at 6:09pm
I got an email today from Classic Firearms, they must purchase from RTI because they are selling gunsmith refurb carbines and cans of Korean ammo. Hurry, only 1 can left. Ha   |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Nov 13 2020 at 6:37pm
Yikes
 $1500 bucks for a import marked Inland? I'm ignoring a Saginaw at a LGS right now I can inspect for $1300 bucks, and I think if I offered $1100 I could get it since it's been there awhile. |
Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Nov 13 2020 at 7:51pm
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To All, I just searched and found the Korean for$449.00 @ Palmetto (says in stock) don't know shipping cost. But cheapest I seen while searching today. https://palmettostatearmory.com/pw-arms-30-m1-carbine-110gr-fmj-1080rd-m2a1-can.html" rel="nofollow - https://palmettostatearmory.com/pw-arms-30-m1-carbine-110gr-fmj-1080rd-m2a1-can.html If I own 1 M1 carbine, I consider the cupboards bare @ 1,000 loaded rds. This is my rule of thumb for each arm I own. Minimum is 1,000 rds per arm. Except shotguns, they take up too much space. And except black powder muzzle loaders. Below are the only calibers I reload for my household: I always keep enough components to reload in excess of 10,000 carbine rds. And about 1/4 that amount (more for some, less for others) for: .25ACP, .32ACP, .38 spl, .357, .45 ACP, .45LC, .223 / .556, .300 Win mag, .270, 30-30 and .308. I do reload for 9mm but do so just for a couple friends. I don't use or own a 9mm. Buy everything bulk: Misc size/type primers, powders and bullet tips. Costly at first but pays for itself in the long run. Worth it to not have to worry at times like this and possibly the future. Can't reload Rimfire, So I pull off Bulk buys of .22lr in multiple 500 count bricks up to 5,000 - 10,000. Smaller lots when trying a new to me brand. When I can catch the best deals. Also have a limited stash of older rimfire ammo like .32 rim for some early revolvers and rifles. And .25 rim for a few early Stevens rifles. Which reminds me of my Fathers collection of old Rolling Blocks and Falling block I haven't opened up in years. IIRC he had a few Remingtons, Stevens, Sharps and Browning along with some others I can't remember. Those are in the 'Never Shoot Locker'. Maybe this winter I'll get some pictures of them if anyone is interested in seeing them. I fear the day 'They' decide to limit or ban supplies for reloaders. Sorry a bit Off Topic, got to reminiscing. Buy while you can and Good Luck, Charle-P777 ------------- Living Free because of those that serve..... |
Posted By: 03manV
Date Posted: Nov 13 2020 at 7:56pm
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Oh my! I'm a little short on ammo then. I'd need 25k rnds of carbine and only have 4 or 5k. ------------- Don |
Posted By: GotSnlB28
Date Posted: Nov 13 2020 at 8:26pm
| Looks like the Classic JRA refurbs are selling well. As we say in WI, pricey.. I'd seen their email earlier in the day and they had all MFG on the page above but Rock-ola was crossed out I think. Watched the video, they spoke of the manufacturer "National Fork and Hoe" again, now that's one I don't have (and I suppose will elude me till the end of my days). |
Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Nov 13 2020 at 8:48pm
It's like therapy loading. I figure 1k rds per carbine is ok. No different than buying a can of Korean. Pre Obama I got caught low on supplies. Told myself I'd never let it happen again. But to be honest after reading back thru my post......... I believe I'm a Hoarder ! But when the Wife and 2 grown kids along with my DIL head over to shoot, you can sure go thru a lot of ammo in a afternoon. Doesn't help that my Rifle club is a 8 minute drive away. Maybe cheaper to move ? Safe Weekend To You, Charlie-P777 ------------- Living Free because of those that serve..... |
Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Nov 13 2020 at 9:07pm
I have a WWII Army dated 44 American Fork and Hoe pick axe. I used it for years as a door stop in the barn (no handle) until cleaning it up and oiling it one day and seen the markings. Gotta find a handle some day for it. Wonder how it would look displayed with that super rare National Fork and Hoe Carbine !! Good Weekend To you, Charlie-P777 ------------- Living Free because of those that serve..... |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Nov 13 2020 at 9:17pm
I've 4800 rounds .30 Carbine right now for 5 Carbines so in theory I'm short 200 rounds  The Korean I'm using for range ammo for the next few months until it's gone and then I'll have to see how the ammo situation is. I run through that I've 3000 rounds so we'll seeI got got short on my ammo stash post Newtown shooting and that got me "out" of Carbines for a couple years (I had 400 rounds .30 Carbine that week and 2 Carbines back then....they sat for a couple years) Thank God for .22.
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Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Nov 13 2020 at 10:12pm
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Don, Our range days are quickly winding down, most out there now are knocking the dust off their Deer rifles as gun season starts Sunday the 15th. Unless our Governor decides to lock us down again. I'm not much for shooting more than a 100rds or so when it gets below freezing with a couple feet of snow. This becomes my reloading season until (or if) the lakes freeze over for ice fishing. But on to the indoor range and yes thank God for the .22 and pistol calibers. It helps but nothing beats the ping of the plates! I dream of attending a gun show. Haven't had a show this year, State has so many restrictions the usual promoter of shows in my area cancelled all their shows this year, with nothing planned so far for 2021. I've only been to a couple swap meets at the club. Same guys.... same stuff. I nearly bought a S&W Model 19 in .357 before I realized I was the one who sold it to him 3 or 4 years ago Cheers, Charlie-P777 ------------- Living Free because of those that serve..... |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Nov 13 2020 at 10:26pm
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I'm scaling back myself with cold weather getting closer. I "plan" on 2-3 more outdoor sessions before the end of the year as I get time off for the holidays, so I figure that'll take 400-600 rounds of .30 Carbine. Come spring that'll give me 1000 rounds Korean, hopefully something will be back in stock by then.
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Posted By: Donnie
Date Posted: Nov 14 2020 at 8:38am
Geez, some peeps can really burn through ammo. Thats cool if thats what you need do to enjoy your carbines. As for me, I'm generally happy emptying 2 50rd boxes at the range. But, I generally bring other range toys to shoot as well. So I might go through another 50 to 100rds of some pistol ammo. That said, I'll probably be backing off on the range trips to conserve my ammo supply. I think I have about 1.5k of 30 carbine stocked. Included is a untouched can of Korean ammo. I do collect my 30 carbine casings as I may start reloading that caliber.
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Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Nov 14 2020 at 9:26am
| I run 100 rounds minimum every range session per gun, and normally take 2-3 guns a trip. Last couple trips have been purely M-1 Carbines so that's 200-300 rounds a day, it adds up quick |
Posted By: Smokpole
Date Posted: Nov 14 2020 at 6:00pm
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Painter! You sound like me! Anything under 1,000 round in a caliber is an empty cupboard! And I load for about the same number of calibers, although a few a different like .30-06, 8mm, .300 blk, 7.62x54 and 9mm. Most of the others, I have and load for. Also load for 12 ga., 16 ga., 20 ga. and .410. The 16 and .410 are the only ones I allow to got down to 500 rounds. I just don't shoot them that much. As for carbine, I keep around 5,000 as a minimum. ------------- OGCA Life member NRA Life member Ashtabula Rod and Gun Life member |
Posted By: Beezer
Date Posted: Nov 14 2020 at 6:14pm
| My sons and I are having an impromptu Veterans Day shoot at the outdoor range tomorrow. I was going thru my stock. I still have 2 cans of Korean .30 cal. I’m low on .303 british, only 200 rnds left, 7mm and 8mm Mauser 500 each and 7.62x54r I have 700 rnds with another 500 on the way. All them silly guys at the range won’t know what to do when they hear a “real” rifle go off. 95% of the shooters have some sort of AR variant. I’m leaving mine at home. It’s time to let the big guns bark. Man I’m excited like a kid on Christmas Eve. |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Nov 14 2020 at 7:05pm
My AR's have been parked for a couple months now, I hate cutting into my ammo stash for those. I figure when my stash of Korean is gone we'll see what the market is doing on ammo.
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Posted By: 35 Whelen
Date Posted: Nov 15 2020 at 1:05am
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Four carbines here, and I got one of the last cans of Korean from Widener's a few days ago. So I have that and 200-300 rounds loaded and stored, which is plenty. Since I have a range at my house I shoot carbines frequently, but that is done with cast bullets loaded to the same level as the original military load, so the jacketed stuff is rarely if ever fired. I have hundreds of pounds of wheelweights, enough to cast bullets for all my handguns and rifles from now on. Plenty of powder, primers, brass and .22 LR. One thing I'm careful about is if I'm checking or adjusting sights, or testing a new load, I find no need in burning through an excess amount of ammunition. Even when I just want to shoot, I'll usually limit myself to a couple of 15 round magazines at a time.
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Posted By: 03manV
Date Posted: Nov 15 2020 at 10:02am
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"Even when I just want to shoot, I'll usually limit myself to a couple of 15 round magazines at a time. " That makes sense to me. I may shoot several different things during an outing, but usually with a purpose - like sighting in, checking a modification or repair, or a "new" to me firearm. ------------- Don |
Posted By: Smokpole
Date Posted: Nov 15 2020 at 11:10am
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National Fork and Hoe???? I know Union Fork and Hoe of Columbus, Ohio and American Fork and Hoe of Geneva/Ashtabula, Ohio, but not National. I have a bayonet and hatchet from American Fork and Hoe of Ashtabula. I grew up 2 blocks from that plant in Ashtabula. Where was National? ------------- OGCA Life member NRA Life member Ashtabula Rod and Gun Life member |
Posted By: Matt_X
Date Posted: Nov 15 2020 at 3:31pm
I can't answer that directly but the choke point is lack of primers. The authors of two articles I looked at contacted at least some of the manufacturers but had not delved deeper. The bottom line is that there are four US manufacturers and one, Remmington, had financial issues which in turn effected their ability to purchase materials. So that, plus things already discussed here such as increase in demand far greater than normal production, reduced work staff, and possibly disrupted transportation, has dried up what was available. So the answer to when depends on whether overseas shipments (if any in quantity) plus US manufacturing will start to refill the backorders and rebuild normal stock. I suspect either industry newsletters or business papers would be the most likely news sources with insight on these.
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Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Nov 15 2020 at 3:45pm
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@ Smokepole There was a video of the Royal Tiger Imports (RTI) carbines. I believe an individual in the video stated National Fork and Hoe as a rare M1 carbine manufacturer. Maybe someone can link that video. ------------- http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/club-assistance-saginaw-receivers_topic4716.html" rel="nofollow - Club Survey Saginaw Receivers |
Posted By: Beezer
Date Posted: Nov 15 2020 at 4:18pm
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@New2brass I think it was the crate unveiling from Classic Firearms where they referred to National Fork and Hoe. I have a bayonet with UFH on one side of the blade and AFH on the other. I got em both covered. Maybe the scabbard is NFH. Ha They mention it at about the 1:03 mark in the video https://youtu.be/L3KiTY-jLs0" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/L3KiTY-jLs0
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Posted By: GotSnlB28
Date Posted: Nov 15 2020 at 5:21pm
CF recently started selling JRA refurb carbines using some of the rifles acquired from RTI. Pricing starts @$1499. 7:35 in they again mention the "National Fork and Hoe" though they seem a little uncertain at that point in naming manufacturers. Well, they got a few of them right, and capture some of the essence of what makes collecting them cool. https://youtu.be/OjpxGF_WprA" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/OjpxGF_WprA |
Posted By: Beezer
Date Posted: Nov 15 2020 at 6:06pm
| yeah, I got that email last week and watched the video. I cringe whenever those two do a review. It’s like Laurel and Hardy |
Posted By: Smokpole
Date Posted: Nov 15 2020 at 6:25pm
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I wonder if they meant National Postal Meter? ------------- OGCA Life member NRA Life member Ashtabula Rod and Gun Life member |
Posted By: Beezer
Date Posted: Nov 15 2020 at 6:46pm
| they mentioned National Postal Meter before they said “some farm equipment company”. They just clueless Gun sellers. I try to avoid people like that at shows and gun stores. Buy the gun not the story but make sure it’s not a National Farm and Hoe gun |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Nov 28 2020 at 9:53am
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HOLY PRICE JUMPS BATMAN https://www.sgammo.com/product/30-carbine-ammo/1080-round-can-30-cal-m1-carbine-110-grain-fmj-ammo-strippers-and-bandoliers" rel="nofollow - 1080 Round Can - .30 Cal M1 Carbine 110 Grain FMJ Ammo on Strippers and Bandoliers Korean Military Surplus | SGAmmo.com $637 a case now. Looks like I'll be mothballing my Carbines when I use up my stash of Korean.
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Posted By: Donnie
Date Posted: Nov 28 2020 at 7:50pm
Ditto that! A month or so ago I paid $400 with free shipping from Midway and wondered if I over paid. Now I'm shocked to hear the rapidly rising prices and planning to conserve the ammo I'm lucky enough to have. Who knows how long this ammo famine will last.
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Posted By: 35 Whelen
Date Posted: Nov 28 2020 at 8:22pm
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That's quite a price jump! I bought a case from Widener's about 3 weeks ago, cost a smidge over $400 with shipping. Other than the few dozen rounds I used for the "review", I don't plan on shooting any, at least as long as my reloading components hold out.
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Posted By: Matt_X
Date Posted: Nov 29 2020 at 12:08pm
It's hard to gauge. Depends on continued demand and how much, if any, foriegn made supply is available and exported to US. That said, looks like into next year. Vista Outdoor's CEO stated at the most recent earnings call that they currently have over a years worth of orders. I dont know if that includes the Remmington ammo or just the Federal. I do think it is based on standard production levels, but that's just based on the logic that he would have phrased it differently if it meant running overtime or around the clock. He specifically stated he would not normally report on this each quarter but he wanted to include this important indication of the long term strength of the business.
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Posted By: sling00
Date Posted: Dec 10 2020 at 8:32am
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Lookin' around this morning I see it appears Bud's Gunshop dropped the Team Membership requirement for the Korean Surplus and upped the price by $20 to $409.99. Figure about another $75-$80 for shipping and taxes. AmmoMan and BulkAmmo both show it in stock but both at >$500 with taxes and applicable shipping. Has anybody tried Creedmoor Sports .30 Carbine110GR FMJ on CMP estore? It's $178 for 250. ~$0.71/rnd. Half-again more than Bud's Korean final price ~$0.45/rnd. Perhaps just wait and hope PRVI comes back into the 35 cents/rnd range?
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Posted By: Beezer
Date Posted: Dec 10 2020 at 8:52am
| I was at the north store last weekend and the helpful guy behind the counter said the Creedmore is better than the Aquila .30 carbine ammo they sell. They have a lot more listed in the store than on the e-store. |
Posted By: Donnie
Date Posted: Dec 10 2020 at 11:18am
^The mostful tip of the day! Thanks
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Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Dec 10 2020 at 7:41pm
I ordered a case when it was $399 for team members, it ran around $38 bucks for both.
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Posted By: GotSnlB28
Date Posted: Dec 10 2020 at 10:20pm
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Overall I think this ammo a good deal at around $400 per can. If one wanted you can recoup roughly: Brass - .10 x 1000 = $100 Bandoleers w/stripper clips - $15 x 9 = $135 Ammo can = $10 $245 per can One never knows, but I'll bet we don't see .30 carbine surplus again for a long time. My personal favorite was when CMP received the pristine 1350 round cans of LC a few years ago. $520 per can IIRC. |
Posted By: 03manV
Date Posted: Dec 10 2020 at 10:37pm
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Just ordered one more can from Bud's. $479.35 delivered including 7% sales tax = $0.444 per rnd- still a bargain! JMHO  ------------- Don |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Dec 11 2020 at 9:23am
I must of have lucked out, they didn't charge me tax.
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Posted By: sling00
Date Posted: Dec 11 2020 at 4:05pm
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Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Dec 11 2020 at 5:15pm
What surprised me is I'm in Ohio, you think a KY based store would have charged taxes
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Posted By: W5USMC
Date Posted: Mar 11 2021 at 3:34pm
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Not the greatest price but not the worst either, SG Ammo is selling 200 round packs of Korean Surplus ammo for $124.95. https://www.sgammo.com/product/30-carbine-ammo/200-round-pack-30-cal-m1-carbine-110-grain-fmj-ammo-korean-military-surplus" rel="nofollow - 200 Round Pack - .30 Cal M1 Carbine 110 Grain FMJ Ammo - Korean Military Surplus | SGAmmo.com ------------- Wayne USMC Retired NRA Life Member |
Posted By: GotSnlB28
Date Posted: Mar 24 2021 at 8:07pm
Interesting this configuration is the 50 round boxes which look just like the USGI boxes except they have one side in English and one side in Korean like the cans and crates they ship in. Pretty cool. I'll bet they made 1350 round cans as well and some of those were imported along with the 1080 round cans on strippers/bandoleers. I have not seen the 50 round boxes at other dealers, I wonder how much of it there is and if it's being held. |
Posted By: W5USMC
Date Posted: Mar 24 2021 at 8:31pm
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It also has a different head stamp than the other Korean Surplus ammo (P S 7 8), I bought 5 of the 200 round packs, seems to shoot about the same. ------------- Wayne USMC Retired NRA Life Member |