Spitflier wrote:
the letters are in a boxIt’s not a patch it looks like maybe epoxy or heavy poly No letters on the left side slingwell There is the faintest of crossed cannons and there looks like a P in a circle on the pistol grip There are more letters near the cannons you can see in the picture looks like maybe a GHD but the first letter I’m not sure about Should I try to get a wood hand guard and if so where Thanks for all the great interest |
Spitfire, 'You say the letters are in a box.' Is that the OGEK in the rectangular box we brought up above? If so, you now know what they mean.
'Not a patch.... Maybe Epoxy or Poly' So the stock repair is not a wood patch. Might be Aqua-Glass (spelling ?)
'No letters in Slingwell' But have a '4 Digit number' The 4 numbers as stated above were to a different action that stock probably seen some service in Europe, Austria/Germany were known to use last 4 digits to mark major parts of a carbine during their service. At some point your IBM was set in that stock. Maybe a previous owner.... (A guess). Your stock is the first type used, some so early were not marked.
'P in a circle on the pistol grip' Is the circled P on the bottom of the pistol grip? If on the Bottom, only a few makers did this early on. It would be a 1/2" diameter circle with a Sans Serif P. Circled P proof was done on Early: Winchester, Inland , Underwood, Irwin-Pedersen, and Saginaw S'G' (Grand Rapids).
'Crossed cannons and maybe a GHD but the first letter I’m not sure about.' Is the GHD at the bottom of the box? Hard to see, your NO photographer! Very possible it's what's left of a boxed UEF over GHD. That would be Inspector Guy H Drewry (sp?) for Underwood Elliot Fisher. I've tried blowing the pic up and the view is missing half of the box. The Crossed cannon is very worn but seems correct size compared to the GHD sized letters. Crossed cannon should measure nearly a 1/2" at 0.46". The GHD letters and UEF letters (if there) should be 1/4" high with no periods between them. The total box size with the stacked letters would be a hair over 3/4" x 3/4". I have one here looking at for comparison.
IF: You can see WRA over GHD in the box you have a early Winchester stock. Inside the stock on the bridge (forward the trigger housing in let) there may be a number or letter. Also if it's a WRA stock look at the I cut oiler slot. If the crossed part of the I at the top and bottom are recessed deeper than the upright part of the I. Odds are you have a Winchester stock. Letters would measure 0.32" high and the box would measure 3/4" x 3/4". No periods between the letters. Crossed cannons would measure 0.60" long.
I believe you have 1 of the 2 stocks mentioned above. It may take looking inside for the letters or number on the bridge to be sure. But if the top and bottom crosses of the I cut oiler ARE recessed, then you have a WRA stock.
Should I try to get a wood hand guard and if so where
Yes, metal ones look like crap on a USGI carbine... IMO. Ebay and GunBroker have them. You can also list a WTB here on the forum.
Your Barrel Band: Need a picture of the weld spots on top and a picture of each side. Can you see a mark on the left side like this / or this // ?
When you get done shooting report back and tell us how she shoots. When you tear it down to clean get pictures of the major parts inside. Including the top of the sideways wood bridge in front of where your forward part of trigger housing sets. Lok for the letters or numbers stamped on top of it. If it's a WRA stock there should be.
Make sure you do your homework
Cheers, Ch-P777
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