US Marking on Stock
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Topic: US Marking on Stock
Posted By: Memphis35
Subject: US Marking on Stock
Date Posted: Feb 15 2020 at 10:28pm
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Hi All, I am new to the forum so thanks in advance for sharing your experience with someone who is learning! I have a nice birch M1/M2 carbine stock that is stamped SB-B in the sling well and the original correct cartouche on the right side of the stock. There is also a rebuild stamp for Rock Island Arsenal on the left side of the stock. What I don’t understand is the left side of the stock is also stamped with the letters “U S” on the side. Does anyone know what this could be from?
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Posted By: Jt22453
Date Posted: Feb 15 2020 at 10:44pm
| Welcome to CCC! I would think that might be the initials of whomever inspected the rifle. I thought the only ones were FK and EB for Frank Krack and Elmer Bjerke. Pictures would help confirm what it is. Is the US directly under the RIA or elsewhere on the left side of the stock? |
Posted By: Memphis35
Date Posted: Feb 15 2020 at 11:49pm
| Thanks! I was not clear enough. The RIA rebuild stamp and initials below it which are (EB) are clearly from the rebuild era. But separate from this are two stamps in the middle of the stock say “U S”. I can post pictures when I get back home tomorrow if this helps. I was just not sure if there was a logical explanation to this since I have not seen such stamps before. |
Posted By: ncin1911
Date Posted: Feb 16 2020 at 7:18am
Welcome aboard Memphis35 you came to the right place. Maybe take a closer look at the markings in sling well; perhaps it's not SB-B but SC-B? From your description, it might be a Sprague & Carleton Co. birch stock for IBM. Pictures of the markings will help to identify it and we all like pictures. Is this just a loose stock you acquired or a complete carbine?
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Memphis35 wrote:Posted By: Memphis35
Date Posted: Feb 16 2020 at 8:26pm
      
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Posted By: Memphis35
Date Posted: Feb 16 2020 at 8:28pm
| Just postedthe pictures. The stamp I am not familiar with is the US stamp. Does anyone seen one of these before and if yes, does it stand for United States? Thanks for the help! |
Posted By: Jt22453
Date Posted: Feb 16 2020 at 9:11pm
| I would say it’s just someone’s initials or Bubba thought he was adding something to the stock by adding US to it. |
Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Feb 16 2020 at 10:20pm
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is that a potbelly stock? ------------- http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/club-assistance-saginaw-receivers_topic4716.html" rel="nofollow - Club Survey Saginaw Receivers |
Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Feb 17 2020 at 6:55pm
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ok, let's try this. Sprague Carlton did not make 4 rivit handguards. However some rebuilt handguards were rebuilt. As to bubba, he added more than just the US. Of all the markings shown one of them may be legitimate. This might be a place to start http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/unusual-markings-on-parts_topic1270.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/unusual-markings-on-parts_topic1270.html ------------- http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/club-assistance-saginaw-receivers_topic4716.html" rel="nofollow - Club Survey Saginaw Receivers |
Posted By: Memphis35
Date Posted: Feb 17 2020 at 7:45pm
| Thanks Guys....very helpful. I will be returning this to Bubba! |
Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Feb 17 2020 at 7:51pm
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was I correct that it is a pot belly stock? ------------- http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/club-assistance-saginaw-receivers_topic4716.html" rel="nofollow - Club Survey Saginaw Receivers |
Posted By: W5USMC
Date Posted: Feb 17 2020 at 8:06pm
Which marking is that Dan, I was thinking they all look pretty questionable. Maybe someone was testing out a repro stamp set from eBay's bardall? ------------- Wayne USMC Retired NRA Life Member |
Posted By: ncin1911
Date Posted: Feb 17 2020 at 8:18pm
| Was thinking same. The handguard stamp appeared like an attempt at Milton Bradley not SC. |
Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Feb 17 2020 at 8:31pm
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I did not commit to memory the RIA figuring none would stamp a rebuild marking. But looking again it seems off. But I did not compare to say for sure. My mistake on the HG and markings saying Sprague . But the context is still the same. I would still love to see a side profile of the stock
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Posted By: Memphis35
Date Posted: Feb 17 2020 at 8:59pm
| based on the research I tried to do, it seemed the cartouche, Circle P, SC-B in the sling as well as the BR-B on the hand guard would have been original to the stock. They are consistent a birch Sprague Carlton. The RIA/EB would have been from Rock Island during the rebuild as well as the P stamped on the pistol section. I have seen these on other rebuild stocks, but the US I have never seen and could find no information on. Of course, this all assumes these stamps are real and not just fake ones... I believe this is a M2 type 4 stock. It has the M2 cutout, but I don’t think its the potbelly. I will post a picture to show everyone. |
Posted By: Memphis35
Date Posted: Feb 17 2020 at 9:11pm
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Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Feb 17 2020 at 9:26pm
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Is What most call a Potbelly. Probably has the 4" front barrel channel. 3 holes under the buttplate? Very Likely made over seas. CH-P777 ------------- Living Free because of those that serve..... |
Posted By: Memphis35
Date Posted: Feb 17 2020 at 10:23pm
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Yes, has a 4 inch front barrel channel and there are 3 holes under the butt plate which includes the butt plate screw hole. These were made over seas? Everyone has been so helpful....my first post and I am learning...I hope this helps someone else as well some day!
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Posted By: chipins
Date Posted: Mar 04 2020 at 9:16am
Apparently returning this to bubba means putting it on Ebay for 175.00 bucks as it is up for sale now. Hopefully it was returned and the original bubba put it back up.
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Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Mar 04 2020 at 9:36am
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kevree.fysleud is in West Virginia ------------- http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/club-assistance-saginaw-receivers_topic4716.html" rel="nofollow - Club Survey Saginaw Receivers |
Posted By: Memphis35
Date Posted: Mar 04 2020 at 8:43pm
| Yep, my guess is its him. He was from West Virginia and his name was Kevin. I had one heck of a time getting a refund, but after some choice words and filing a claim with the credit card company, he finally relented and gave the refund. He said US stood for United Arsenal....which never existed of course. I hope nobody else gets scammed. |
Posted By: tenOCEE
Date Posted: Mar 05 2020 at 8:07am
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That person made a low ball offer on a stock I had on ebay and it reminded me to add him to my blocked bidder list. ------------- My sig: Seen an IP or S'G'? Add it to my registry. We'll check consecutives. https://grandrapids.wufoo.com/forms/zzlnt0519k86xs/" rel="nofollow - https://grandrapids.wufoo.com/forms/zzlnt0519k86xs/ |
Posted By: bonnie
Date Posted: Mar 05 2020 at 12:02pm
Looks like it could be a post war Springfield Armory birch M2 stock also. These have the 4" front barrel channel with the 3 holes under the buttplate. Is there an "SA" mark on the left side barrel channel close to the front of the stock? Added: Just realized I'm late on the comments. |
Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Mar 05 2020 at 1:59pm
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Hi bonnie, It might be a SA. It's currently listed and ends in about 5hrs @ 6:52 pm, est. Item number: 264649700937 Usual tricks with the fuzzy pictures. It has so much RLO slopped on it he has pre-warned a buyer that it will be sticky when they get it. A open bid of $175.00 + $10.90 for shipping. It's also listed as a 'Make Offer' ....... so maybe we should all offer a Dollar for it. I'm not sure what this is all about but the Seller states ' I cant give 'returns' as the funds go directly to my Hospital.' ADD: ***** I see it sold tonight. 1 Bid ******* FULL PRICE $175 + SHIP
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