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Topic: Re-stamped Stocks
Posted By: hunterman
Subject: Re-stamped Stocks
Date Posted: Nov 25 2019 at 7:20pm
I'm pretty sure "tfaith707" on ebay is the same as "m1carbineman", seller of "restored" (and re-stamped) stocks.  To his credit, seller usually states such in his descriptions but in the excitement of finding that stock you've been needing you may forget to read the fine print.  In my opinion, re-stamping cheapens the stock instead of adding value.







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Posted By: kro1970
Date Posted: Nov 25 2019 at 8:38pm
I agree. I saw a stock once where someone ruined a QHMC early high wood with faint large wheel cartouche by stamping it with fake RMC cartouche. I guess they didn't see the QHMC big wheel and figured since it was stamped RMC in the sling well it should be a Rock Ola. Sad!


Posted By: Why Carbines?
Date Posted: Nov 26 2019 at 1:40pm
Quite simply stated he has the worst stamps I've ever seen, none of them are even close to an original. What's really sad is that someone, not caring if they're real or not, will buy one or more and pass them off to an unsuspecting buyer as authentic...live and learn.


Posted By: hunterman
Date Posted: Nov 26 2019 at 6:10pm
He used to offer returns, but no longer.


Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Nov 27 2019 at 10:54pm
Quote =hunterman In my opinion, re-stamping cheapens the stock instead of adding value.

My opinion: 
Restamping is a act of Dis-respect.
We are the temporary holders of these artifacts.
Why ruin them over a few dollars of profit ?.
Restoration falls closely with maintenance.... If needed for preservation so be it.
To WHACK a Fake stamp on a stock.... whether disclosed or not, is a slap in the face to the Women and Men who made them. Same people who may of had to take life with them, or who may have died with the stock gripped in hand.
This said after burying a dear friend this week who carried a M2 carbine on his 4 man ACU boat on his first of 3 combat tours in Vietnam. He couldn't have told you if it had a Crossed Cannons stamp on it or not. 

Does this seller need some extra Cash? Get a job and Pound some nails........ !!
Nope... he won't do that, he's gotta take a 1/2 a$$ China made knockoff stamp and crush it in to the Walnut of a 1940's WWII gun stock. A stock made by people working a couple jobs and dealing with rationing and scrap drives... etc.
Here he can pound away because he can feel and act like he's a Skilled Craftsman, sell it for profit to those that don't yet know any better and because it's easier to cheat a buyer like that than put some elbow and a$$hole in to some real work for a wage.
I say pull the Scab and lock him up where he can pound large rocks in to smaller rocks.

JMO,
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Posted By: 1st M1 88
Date Posted: Nov 28 2019 at 8:24am
Well said painter777. I have a Saginaw that I've had for 40 plus years. It's all Saginaw except for rear sight, stock with rebuild stamps, hand guard, and sling. For me this carbine is original in that this is the way it came from military storage until it was sold as surplus. jmho.


Posted By: hunterman
Date Posted: Jun 07 2020 at 7:59pm
Seller is now operating an ebay as "roac_kando".  He went from "m1carbineman" to "tfaith707" to "ozark..(something)".  Now he is "roac_kando".  Sometimes he admits the stocks are re-stamped,  other times he doesn't.  Beware of any of his stocks.  All his identities are out of Aurora, Missouri.



Posted By: Why Carbines?
Date Posted: Jun 07 2020 at 9:25pm
I wondered if it wasn't the same slime ball. Thanks for verifying and posting.


Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Jun 07 2020 at 9:56pm
This old post from when he was m1carbineman, him and hdeagle buying stamps from ole Bardall1. Now no longer able to see buyers name since Bardall1 started using 'Private Listings'.

http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/fake-stock-stamps-on-ebay_topic3555.html#top" rel="nofollow - http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/fake-stock-stamps-on-ebay_topic3555.html#top

ozarkian2020
 is still selling...... Compare listings and picture style, ship price, no returns, definition of 'Restored', to include restamping, loves using his circled P proof stamp and from Aurora
  

https://www.ebay.com/itm/M1-Carbine-Stock-Handguard-INLAND-Type-3-IO/324188361672?hash=item4b7b21d3c8:g:qo8AAOSwyEJe2VBM" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/M1-Carbine-Stock-Handguard-INLAND-Type-3-IO/324188361672?hash=item4b7b21d3c8:g:qo8AAOSwyEJe2VBM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/M1-Carbine-stock-handguard-INLAND-Type-2-HIGHWOOD-WWII/324191472244?hash=item4b7b514a74:g:24kAAOSw-Cte2CBV" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/M1-Carbine-stock-handguard-INLAND-Type-2-HIGHWOOD-WWII/324191472244?hash=item4b7b514a74:g:24kAAOSw-Cte2CBV

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-M1-Carbine-Stock-and-Handguard-Inland-IO-1943-1945-Type-3-Restored/324187588246?hash=item4b7b160696:g:62YAAOSwXGVe2E8k" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-M1-Carbine-Stock-and-Handguard-Inland-IO-1943-1945-Type-3-Restored/324187588246?hash=item4b7b160696:g:62YAAOSwXGVe2E8k

roac_kando 
Looks to be the same seller, same style listings with less description. Similar picture layouts just different color background, also from Aurora and no returns.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/M1-Carbine-Stock-Handguard/114250946218?hash=item1a99e316aa:g:UxsAAOSwpFNe28nO" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/M1-Carbine-Stock-Handguard/114250946218?hash=item1a99e316aa:g:UxsAAOSwpFNe28nO

https://www.ebay.com/itm/M1-Carbine-Stock-Handguard/114250953189?hash=item1a99e331e5:g:99IAAOSwUg5e286A" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/M1-Carbine-Stock-Handguard/114250953189?hash=item1a99e331e5:g:99IAAOSwUg5e286A





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Posted By: hunterman
Date Posted: Jun 07 2020 at 10:06pm
The other give-away is the town.  Aurora, Missouri has only 7500 people. 


Posted By: W5USMC
Date Posted: Jun 07 2020 at 10:19pm
Originally posted by hunterman hunterman wrote:

  Aurora, Missouri has only 7500 people. 

And two of them hump carbine stocks, what a coincidence. Shocked 
I like the one guys line "Some stamps have been renewed" 


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Posted By: 03manV
Date Posted: Jun 07 2020 at 10:29pm
I hate it when jerks stamp stocks, they usually don't get the stamp correct and then it is
a "fresh" stamp on a well used stock.

As far as I'm concerned, "they" just took the stock out of the collectible arena and made it a shooter at best.

"They" should be stamped on the forehead with a "faker" stamp. JMHO.

Same opinion on "parts" fakers too.


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Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Jun 07 2020 at 10:55pm
I'm sure his Wife is having to do her share of Faking !  Wink

Charlie-P777


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Posted By: tenOCEE
Date Posted: Jun 08 2020 at 9:08am
Before I knew who this person was I contacted him about an LEAD potbelly Carbine stock he was selling, telling him I had one in terrible condition if he was interested. He paid $50 for it, plus shipping.


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Posted By: hunterman
Date Posted: Sep 16 2020 at 7:43pm
Originally posted by W5USMC W5USMC wrote:

Originally posted by hunterman hunterman wrote:

  Aurora, Missouri has only 7500 people. 

And two of them hump carbine stocks, what a coincidence. Shocked 
I like the one guys line "Some stamps have been renewed" 


"Another" eBay stock restorer from Aurora, Missouri.  This time he's going by "hiddensprings2020".


Posted By: GotSnlB28
Date Posted: Sep 16 2020 at 8:51pm
This one's a beauty: https://www.ebay.com/itm/402188233034" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/402188233034


Posted By: Donnie
Date Posted: Sep 16 2020 at 8:59pm
The folks on this forum that shed light on such unscrupulous vendors do us a great service. Hats off to you. 


Posted By: Bigheavy31
Date Posted: Sep 16 2020 at 9:59pm
I thought that one was shady


Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Sep 17 2020 at 1:17pm
The picture isn't very good.
But I don't see anything jumping out as fake.

Ch-P777




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Posted By: GotSnlB28
Date Posted: Sep 17 2020 at 6:53pm
painter, it's possible I pulled the "fake" trigger too quickly on this one... Another picture from the listing shows what appears to be buttplate overhang, which is usually means the stock was sanded after mfg so how could the acceptance stamp be so good? That was a red flag for me. Might just be the picture. Overall stamp just looks too perfect for the stock.



Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Sep 17 2020 at 11:09pm
@Gotsnl....,
Agree the Butt plate has plenty of overhang.
Stock has been messed with, that's a fact.

The stock appears to have a clear resin repair (?) to a missing chunk at the bottom left of the boxed WRA/GHD. Where the dripping run and raw scrape travel down toward the oiler and butt plate.
 
Also on the right side of the oiler slot there is a triangular section that must have pulled up and he's tried resin or glue/putty to secure it back down. Look close at the top of the oiler slot and down about 3/4 of it, you'll see it shaped like a > with the point of the > pointing towards the boxed WRA/GHD. 
That area has been heavily sanded and you can see the touched up color is much darker than the rest of the stock. I think only the areas they tried to repair have been sanded.
Had they sanded the entire stock I'd expect to see far fewer scratches and a better overall appearance on the complete stock.

Maybe he wasn't happy with the way those repairs came out. So seems he tried a colored wood putty to fill a couple other spots on the right.
Both on the lower right side near the trigger housing area... 1st between the escutcheon nut and rear of the trigger housing opening. The 2nd low on the right about even with the mag well opening.
 
More patch filling on the left hand side- Looks to have used the same colored putty on the left side at the forward edge of the tapered sling well cut and deep inside the sling well. The one inside the Sling well might be extra filler for the > shaped patch glued back down on the other side.
 
I compared the stamps with 9 different photo files I have here of my own and about 5-6 files Marcus just shared with me of early Winchesters.
Granted the Ebay pictures are poorly done but I'm confident the Stamps are real. 
Shame it wasn't someone with skills that could have done the repairs correctly.

Who ever did the 'Work' was smart enough to not sand over the stamps.
But the Seller only has 5 gloomy pictures up. So that's $100 a picture X 5 = $500 stock plus shipping.
And I quote part of his description: 
"This is one of the rarest World War II carbine rifleā€™s the least amount made of all rifles."

Never ends does it??

Good Weekend to you

VR,
Ch-P777

 



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Posted By: tenOCEE
Date Posted: Sep 18 2020 at 7:26am
J saved and rotated the right side pic, the full stock pic. Looking at it with the advantage of what you guys have posted, the overhang looks like it's caused by sanding the top of the stock for the last couple of inches so much that it reshaped it so it doesn't fit the plate right anymore. The heavy drip under the WRA stamp sticks out prominently too. There's a difference in sheen behind the stamps where it was worked over. Maybe it's acetone that was used.


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Posted By: GotSnlB28
Date Posted: Sep 18 2020 at 11:43am
Painter, ten, seems like a likely explanation of what happened with this one. It's a shame, valuable stock if it had been treated right. I don't have an early boxed example, but I dug out a sharp unboxed and the CC detail matches. Lines up with all your comparisons.
And yep a total crap description.. I won't be investing the $500 lol but I have saved off the first picture for future reference.


Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Sep 18 2020 at 1:05pm
GotSnlB28,
If you searched Milsurps, typing in WRA 1,030,621 you'll find the pictures of my best Boxed WRA/GHD and CC.

If photobucket doesn't still have them held hostage.
I believe some pics are stored on the Surps server.

I haven't been on there in a while....... tired of threads getting locked down by a particular Mod. 


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Posted By: W5USMC
Date Posted: Sep 18 2020 at 2:17pm
WRA 1,030,621 sure is a beauty, Charlie!

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Posted By: GotSnlB28
Date Posted: Sep 18 2020 at 9:24pm
painter, your early Winchester is fantastic. Nicest one I've seen.


Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Jul 26 2021 at 10:42pm
Was just discussing this guy on the CMP Forum, until it was locked down.
I see that hiddensprings2020 has a Ultra Rare Springfield 'Non Potbelly' Type IV Stock. Long barrel channel with M2 cut. He states that this is the 1st he's seen in his 10 year career with the Thousands of Stocks that have come thru his shop. Note how Razor thin the right wall is.

$350.00 + Shipping and this baby could be yours !

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324728650682?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D233149%26meid%3D75668245a80e40d2a912862482e44c96%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D324728887218%26itm%3D324728650682%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2WithMLRv3&_trksid=p2047675.c101196.m2219&amdata=cksum%3A32472865068275668245a80e40d2a912862482e44c96%7Cenc%3AAQAGAAACAAS%252FWEJHtbMQdBG2Oy8JfMww%252B602yK0aYIhQoUlH7XLPXsQVcV6OAO%252F2ORuTvvmzuEZDxlns7v56epT0pUDHUpsF7fysSghnnWXrgd%252F08XDwiOFIJiEBMeHh8kBlILcP1fvVIHutNj5goSd8nHJm3Rvlt%252FPNFoKV6PWDRtsWbiu4piwJ1ZS5svA0kHzj0TwVxZwdHd1ulruhUa9gBo%252FiP3pEjXIlcmMLK27RLc7MSxJgqpY76WF4u0LcO2M8F8Reb5rgwIuQBwR2J8iQrOz1RDjIyDjYLEITTyi7oQ1yff5Xz61qR7hJAlH2nxwCoBjniR0DRd5sOsFOvFis54Won%252BkK85wuQWr%252BxLfIwLIku65xN77YUNks1T4GOTNpdNDlhxMNLRQd9zQ3WSNQfb0CGxuuZak0xXNAAt3%252BN5Oys%252FlpKQ%252BpZJCEKU38XuiLfS7ufQN%252Bvv2FCnI%252BgdJJn1cDE9jVgjsnAAx2QJIWxYhFj1HEwDGxDLxqaF6Tsapbb7PabkamLiPUHpB1mwzP4MIptbg0nANweEEL%252FVihLeVdeqoCR%252FEnSLsmgIsFmURhss0kFEttxkaBpFqzYWiprfAX%252B46sBH74UNYNnHrKRwk7lpnnIqMjKMJvqQkTUkGIwWdHe7UuZiolwThd2vwQk0babu9oJFU2DXW1lLn2iZXVUGT3%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/324728650682?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D233149%26meid%3D75668245a80e40d2a912862482e44c96%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D324728887218%26itm%3D324728650682%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2WithMLRv3&_trksid=p2047675.c101196.m2219&amdata=cksum%3A32472865068275668245a80e40d2a912862482e44c96%7Cenc%3AAQAGAAACAAS%252FWEJHtbMQdBG2Oy8JfMww%252B602yK0aYIhQoUlH7XLPXsQVcV6OAO%252F2ORuTvvmzuEZDxlns7v56epT0pUDHUpsF7fysSghnnWXrgd%252F08XDwiOFIJiEBMeHh8kBlILcP1fvVIHutNj5goSd8nHJm3Rvlt%252FPNFoKV6PWDRtsWbiu4piwJ1ZS5svA0kHzj0TwVxZwdHd1ulruhUa9gBo%252FiP3pEjXIlcmMLK27RLc7MSxJgqpY76WF4u0LcO2M8F8Reb5rgwIuQBwR2J8iQrOz1RDjIyDjYLEITTyi7oQ1yff5Xz61qR7hJAlH2nxwCoBjniR0DRd5sOsFOvFis54Won%252BkK85wuQWr%252BxLfIwLIku65xN77YUNks1T4GOTNpdNDlhxMNLRQd9zQ3WSNQfb0CGxuuZak0xXNAAt3%252BN5Oys%252FlpKQ%252BpZJCEKU38XuiLfS7ufQN%252Bvv2FCnI%252BgdJJn1cDE9jVgjsnAAx2QJIWxYhFj1HEwDGxDLxqaF6Tsapbb7PabkamLiPUHpB1mwzP4MIptbg0nANweEEL%252FVihLeVdeqoCR%252FEnSLsmgIsFmURhss0kFEttxkaBpFqzYWiprfAX%252B46sBH74UNYNnHrKRwk7lpnnIqMjKMJvqQkTUkGIwWdHe7UuZiolwThd2vwQk0babu9oJFU2DXW1lLn2iZXVUGT3%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675






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Posted By: hunterman
Date Posted: Jul 26 2021 at 11:05pm
"Thousands of stocks through his shop"  Angry


Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Jul 26 2021 at 11:59pm
Originally posted by hunterman hunterman wrote:

"Thousands of stocks through his shop"  Angry

 
His Restoration Service- Even though he say's Thousands,
Lets say Roach had 1 thousand stocks come thru in his 10 years.
That's 100 per year, roughly 2 a week he's sanding the Hell out of, Patching, stripping, putting Epoxy on, staining, for a finish I think he's using Painter in a can- some type of spray clear like Acrylic, prepping and parking the pitted metal and adding multiple stampings (I know he loves his circled P proof stamp).... boxing up and shipping. Owes material, Ebay listing fees and final value fee (which includes shipping cost). Prolly missed a few steps, it's late I'm tired but at $139 or so a stock....... I still say he needs a real job. Even part time at minimum wage would be a big income booster. 1/2 his labor time is spent bending buttplates backward to get them on. 

HE REJECTED my offer tonight of $1.99 and my request for free shipping.
Think I'll become a 'Spammer Bidder' Tomorrow I'll offer less and request Free Shipping Wink

I'm no fan.

Ch-P777


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Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Jul 29 2021 at 8:35am
What was your second offer? seems he pulled the listing.
hmm, I wonder if he is on these forums?

Also interesting is that his feedback has 3 from the last month, yet somehow his sold/completed listings only show two listings.

So... Charlie, your math is wrong..... or he is somehow gaming the eBay system.

Interesting is one sold auction was for his service, the other was a sold stock. From that listing
The recoil plate is a original WW2 "PR-B" stamped plate, and all other stamps are original, or enhanced originals.

so all other stamps are original or enhanced originals.
So it seems that already some are discussing restamped and enhanced stamps.

Interesting is a few weeks ago I questioned a seller of a stock that appeared to be a type 4 what the markings in the slingwell were. The stock was devoid any stamps, but appeared to be the same finish as the one discussed here.

I truly wonder how new collectors feel when down the line the reality sets in that they may have paid a collector stock price an got a NYC street vendor Gucci


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Posted By: tenOCEE
Date Posted: Jul 29 2021 at 9:28am
Originally posted by New2brass New2brass wrote:

hmm, I wonder if he is on these forums?

I truly wonder how new collectors feel when down the line the reality sets in that they may have paid a collector stock price an got a NYC street vendor Gucci


I would presume any person singing his praises to be him or one of his agents. Especially when you consider the new crop of buyers brought on by the Midway Carbines.


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Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Jul 29 2021 at 11:12am
No way to really calculate his feedback, unless you know 'All' his user names.
I'm sure once he makes a Sale, the buyers are just dealing outside of the auction sites.
The poster on the CMP made sure he put in plenty of free advertising for him.

No more offers accepted. Buy now price dropped to $290.00

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Posted By: tenOCEE
Date Posted: Jul 29 2021 at 11:19am
Sounds like the CMP thread was specifically to promote his service. Lots of new unsheared Carbine owners who don't know the dos and dont's yet.


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Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Jul 29 2021 at 11:23am
Originally posted by tenOCEE tenOCEE wrote:

Sounds like the CMP thread was specifically to promote his service. Lots of new unsheared Carbine owners who don't know the dos and dont's yet.

As soon as I posted the OP should be given credit for having the FA stamped in the sling well.
I see he asked the Mods to close the thread. That it had ran it's course.

Slick..

ETA: Same OP currently pushing Repro slings and stock pouch.
We have Vagrant over there, He'll not give a inch !

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Posted By: tenOCEE
Date Posted: Jul 29 2021 at 11:41am
~"reproductions are good, new people."


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Posted By: Matt_X
Date Posted: Jul 29 2021 at 2:10pm
After I saw your post here Charlie I made some edits to my reply over there.  I didn't notice it was the same OP in the two threads 
I'll give the benefit of the doubt that he's simply got different perspective - more like a reenactor - than a collector.  I see similar thinking in the collector car hobby.  People buy new 'improved' or deal with venders that they have been warned about.  At some point I have to shrug and so OK, your car. 

I am glad you got your post in before the thread was closed.    Its too bad the guy doesn't initial or somehow mark all his rework. 

All this reminds me of The Furniture Doctor by George Grotz.  Do you have that book? 



Posted By: ncin1911
Date Posted: Aug 07 2021 at 9:39am
Description seems well thought out by seller. Hope the buyer knew what they were getting.

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Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Sep 19 2021 at 10:35am
Has this seller been discussed, Fish2mar
http://www.ebay.com/itm/255140962275?_trksid=p11021.c100851.m5053&_trkparms=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F255140962275%3F_trkparms%3Damclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20170803121420%26meid%3D53278f2f3de84c27b089c5f1a9c9c5b3%26pid%3D100851%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26b%3D1%26sd%3D114998649126%26itm%3D255140962275%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D11021%26algv%3DDefaultOrganic&_trksid=p11021.c100851.m5053&mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m5053.l9429&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=ab5429186baa4e09a57e7896a162862d&bu=43192009963&ut=RU&exe=99322&ext=234173&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20210919013136&segname=11021&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cnqt%3Dnqt%2Cnqc%3Dnqc%2Cmdbreftime%3Dmdbreftime%2Ces%3Des%2Cec%3Dec%2Cexe%3Dexe%2Cext%3Dext%2Cexe%3Dexe%2Cext%3Dext%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid" rel="nofollow - eBay Underwood Stock

I think anyone reading the description can come to a conclusion. No need to discuss and let the seller that has ruined over 500 stocks know Wink



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Posted By: Jond41403
Date Posted: Sep 20 2021 at 10:56am
wow, even said all over the world!



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