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Topic: SP S-HTE Hammer
Posted By: ncin1911
Subject: SP S-HTE Hammer
Date Posted: Aug 01 2019 at 9:02pm
Acquired this S-HTE marked hammer today. Could only find one other related CC thread, so thought I would share.
Manufactured by Hawk Tool & Engineering Co.. This particular one for Standard Products.







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Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Aug 02 2019 at 11:32pm
the Hawk Tool and Engineering  hammers have eluded my collection.
I did some research into the company. Seems they had some issues with bad rocker arms for tank engines they made. 

Thanks for the pictures


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Posted By: ncin1911
Date Posted: Aug 03 2019 at 7:37am
Thank you for the additional information Dan.
I have opened a library of congress ask the librarian request, for more information on their war time contracts. Business Reference Section.
This LOC blog article sent me down that path.
https://blogs.loc.gov/inside_adams/2013/03/wwii-detail-from-war-supply-contracts/" rel="nofollow - https://blogs.loc.gov/inside_adams/2013/03/wwii-detail-from-war-supply-contracts/


Posted By: blackfish
Date Posted: Aug 03 2019 at 9:36am
Originally posted by New2brass New2brass wrote:

the Hawk Tool and Engineering  hammers have eluded my collection.


Me too. This hammer has been one of my holy grails


Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Aug 03 2019 at 10:21am
Originally posted by ncin1911 ncin1911 wrote:

Thank you for the additional information Dan.
I have opened a library of congress ask the librarian request, for more information on their war time contracts. Business Reference Section.
This LOC blog article sent me down that path.
https://blogs.loc.gov/inside_adams/2013/03/wwii-detail-from-war-supply-contracts/" rel="nofollow - https://blogs.loc.gov/inside_adams/2013/03/wwii-detail-from-war-supply-contracts/

Sorry to say it is unlikely that you will get information on HTE from the War Supply Contracts book. I looked Ouch)

As stated it is only contracts in excess of $50,000.
The hammers were made as subcontractors so those contracts would be to the prime contractor and not covered by the book.

But do not let that detract you, please by all means see what you can dig up.

This might help you get started.
From 1956 Popular Science. 


As mentioned I have some info on the rocker failures. I need to locate. 
I believe this was probably Korea era. Things changed greatly during WW2 and then changed by Korea. I have yet to figure how to find that information short of taking a trip to the National Archives.



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Posted By: ncin1911
Date Posted: Aug 03 2019 at 2:54pm
Thanks for the additional info Dan; I suspected you had already done quite a bit of homework. Yes I will keep digging. I was waiting for you to ask about shipping the hammer your way for research purposes. LOL


Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Aug 03 2019 at 5:28pm
Originally posted by New2brass New2brass wrote:

the Hawk Tool and Engineering  hammers have eluded my collection.
I did some research into the company. Seems they had some issues with bad rocker arms for tank engines they made. 

Thanks for the pictures

Dan,
Connection between Hawk Tool and Henry Ford.

Ever hear anything about Henry Fords '18 Village Industries' ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Village_industries" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Village_industries
Ford set one up in Clarkston, Mi. at the old Clarkston Mill site.
http://www.clarkstonhistory.info/history/chd/buildings/washingtonws_020.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.clarkstonhistory.info/history/chd/buildings/washingtonws_020.htm
When sold in 1949 it was purchased by Allen E. Hawk, owner of Hawk Tool & Engineering Co.
Hawk built a home in 1953 next to the plant on 42 West Washington St.
http://www.clarkstonhistory.info/history/chd/buildings/washingtonws_042.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.clarkstonhistory.info/history/chd/buildings/washingtonws_042.htm

There was also a site in Flat Rock, Mi that made head lamps. City park there now. I grew up there.

Just some extra info,

Charlie-Painter777


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Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Aug 03 2019 at 8:08pm

Found this while searching.
Move both of my Replies if needed Dan.

Thx,
Charlie-Painter777

The Pony Cycle 1953-1958
Add: In the Squared off section looking for dealers, there is mention of a 3 wheel version available.




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Posted By: ncin1911
Date Posted: Aug 03 2019 at 8:25pm
h https://www.newspapers.com/clip/30043814/hawk_tool_1962/" rel="nofollow - ttps://www.newspapers.com/clip/30043814/hawk_tool_1962/

Interesting news clipping regarding contracts from 1962.


Posted By: ncin1911
Date Posted: Aug 03 2019 at 8:44pm
Maybe this will be helpful in research?

HAWK TOOL AND ENGINEERING CO 
CAGE Code: 73117
CLARKSTON MI 48346
UNITED STATES

https://cage.dla.mil/Search/Details?id=1476385" rel="nofollow - https://cage.dla.mil/Search/Details?id=1476385


Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Aug 03 2019 at 8:51pm
Charlie,  excellent stuff.
So HTE was in Clarkston after 1949. But where were they during WW2?

War Baby has them listed in Detroit 



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Posted By: ncin1911
Date Posted: Aug 03 2019 at 9:09pm
Nice article In Clarkston News from this year regarding the Pony Cycle 70th anniversary and some info about Hawk.
https://clarkstonnews.com/ponycycles-back-in-town-for-fourth-parade/" rel="nofollow - https://clarkstonnews.com/ponycycles-back-in-town-for-fourth-parade/

Continued..
https://southcountynews.org/2016/06/13/1959-ford-p-series-truck-served-on-great-lakes-cruiser/" rel="nofollow - https://southcountynews.org/2016/06/13/1959-ford-p-series-truck-served-on-great-lakes-cruiser/

Check out the Pony Cycle built for the Military.


Posted By: blackfish
Date Posted: Aug 03 2019 at 10:16pm
The Federal Register (FR-1950-10-27 p. 23) lists DOD contracts subject to renegotiation

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1950-10-27/pdf/FR-1950-10-27.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1950-10-27/pdf/FR-1950-10-27.pdf

Hawk Tool & Engineering Co., Detroit, Mich.: DA-20-018-ord-10325

Since HTE was a Michigan corporation, there should be data available from the MI SOS office (but not online, unfortunately it's too old).

Also Revenue department.


Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Aug 03 2019 at 10:29pm
Nice Job !!
I see...... unless it's a typo that the Son/Grandson spells his last name HAWKE.

CH-P777


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Posted By: ncin1911
Date Posted: Aug 03 2019 at 10:39pm
I have been speaking to Tracie Hawke (daughter of Thomas Hawke)
Here is a snippet from our chat along with some pretty cool information I dug up. 


Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Aug 03 2019 at 11:12pm
Covered a lot of ground.
Hats off Guys !
Fingers crossed, been a long time of wondering.

Thx,
Charlie-P777


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Posted By: ncin1911
Date Posted: Aug 04 2019 at 7:24am
http://obituaries.crossville-chronicle.com/obituary/earle-hawke-983630081%20" rel="nofollow - http://obituaries.crossville-chronicle.com/obituary/earle-hawke-983630081

Allen "Bud" Hawke's brother, Earl G. Hawke

The Hawke family  contributions  and service to our country's history, is amazing to say the least.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US2878032A/en?inventor=Earle+G+Hawke

https://www.ancestry.com/1940-census/usa/Michigan/Earl-Hawke_2ywjm0




Posted By: Dave Tennent
Date Posted: Aug 04 2019 at 9:15am
Here's a couple more pics of a Hawk Tool hammer from my 2108362 STD.PRO.   
High five to you guys on your internet sleuthing, great read. I'm going to have to keep my eye out for a pony cycle now, I have room in the garage.


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Posted By: tenOCEE
Date Posted: Aug 04 2019 at 9:31am
Never discovered the marked hammer spring plunger before.


Posted By: GotSnlB28
Date Posted: Aug 04 2019 at 10:34am
Same here, that is the first coded hammer spring plunger I've ever seen. Neat!
Great research too.



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