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Topic: Stock ID
Posted By: Specdeck
Subject: Stock ID
Date Posted: Jun 26 2019 at 6:30pm
Hello. New guy here. Thanks for any help on this question. I have a M1 that has a serial # that dates it as a1942 Winchester. The weapon has many other traditional markings on the barrel,trigger components, etc...
The stock however has no traditional markings. It looks too new and nice to be of the same age as the rest of the gun. It does have marker writing on the inside of both pieces. I figure it is a retro fitted replacement. Opinions please. 
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Posted By: jackp1028
Date Posted: Jun 26 2019 at 7:54pm
Hi and welcome to the Collector's forum from New Mexico!

The writing inside the stock and hand guard look like date codes (month,year). The deeper routing in the hand guard suggests the stock may have come from a commercial carbine having a square barrel cross section above the operating slide such as Iver Johnson or later Universal. A deeper recess in the hand guard was necessary to fit over the barrel. Often these makers used a thin metal hand guard. However I don't think it is a Universal hand guard as they did not have the operating slide cutout. Another possibility is a modified Boyd's stock to fit an IJ or Universal. However Boyd usually used an ink stamp to mark the date code, not marker. Also, Boyd stamped their name in the stock usually in the barrel channel. It might help to see more pictures of the stock showing a view from above, a profile and a closeup of the sling well. Does the stock have the M2 selector cutout in the left side?     

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Posted By: Specdeck
Date Posted: Jun 26 2019 at 10:20pm
I’ll get some more pics up ASAP. It does not appear to have the M2 cut out. Maybe with more pics you all can help me figure this one out.  Thanks so far!


Posted By: sling00
Date Posted: Jun 27 2019 at 5:55am
Welcome to the forum.  Looking forward to seeing a few more pics.


Posted By: M1carvine4me
Date Posted: Jun 27 2019 at 11:46am
The rivets on the hand guard look like aluminum pop rivets. Also this looks like oak rather then walnut. I would bet this is one if the new made stocks by DGR? They look nice and really dont need to worry about damage to a 70 + year old PC of wood.


Posted By: Specdeck
Date Posted: Jun 27 2019 at 3:39pm
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Posted By: Specdeck
Date Posted: Jun 27 2019 at 4:40pm
I didn’t see an oak option on the DGR website. 


Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Jun 27 2019 at 5:15pm
I believe this to be a commercial stock. One of the companies had the handguard with that inside cut.
It may be foreign made, but definitely not USGI.

The numbers are to keep the matched HG and stock together after finishing.

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It may be a stock made by Altamont which makes stocks for AO (Khar) and Inland
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Look at the grain. Also note that the OP picture the left side rail on the stock "opens up" similar to the selector switch cut, but much longer. This is to accommodate a scope mount




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