Taiwanese M-1 Carbine
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Topic: Taiwanese M-1 Carbine
Posted By: DonFlynn
Subject: Taiwanese M-1 Carbine
Date Posted: Feb 09 2019 at 3:48pm
Ok, found this at a LGS today, $800 and tax  Taiwanese Police marked M-1 Carbine, Inland receiver with a 6-44 marked Inland barrel. Only "import" marking was this  Taiwanese Police marking on the receiver. No other markings on the barrel, gun bunny behind the counter said the guy who had it on consignment got it in the 60's before import markings were required. It's suppose to have been rebuilt in Japan (Howa ?) at 1 time   Round bolt   I can't find any markings on the trigger group, but I only looked on the sides Same with the slide, but I didn't look close    Only odd thing was this  This was in the forward of the handguard. I'm thinking it's a shim of some kind the last owner used to try to increase accuracy or maybe the hand guard had more play than he liked. Everything felt fine when I took it out. Bad news is I can't test fire it until next month, personal issue taking some time up the next few weeks
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Posted By: jackp1028
Date Posted: Feb 09 2019 at 4:32pm
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It's a Royal Thai Police carbine made for them by Howa Machinery Ltd of Japan. The original barrel may have been replaced with an Inland barrel. Howa made their own barrels. It's typical for the other Howa parts to be unmarked. This is a very interesting find. ------------- JackP |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Feb 09 2019 at 5:19pm
COOL. When the counter guy told me it was a rebuild in Japan I figured the lack of markings on the trigger group meant it used a Howa group. I'll check the receiver again tomorrow (out for a bit) and see if I can see any Inland markings under the rear sight. Could it have been a early Howa for Thailand that they used a leftover Inland barrel? The rear sight is adjustable and according to the M-1 Carbine sight that's not common http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/carbine_howa3.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/carbine_howa3.html I gotta oddball, that's for sure
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jackp1028 wrote:Posted By: jackp1028
Date Posted: Feb 09 2019 at 5:33pm
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It would be unusual to find a GI receiver with the Royal Thai Police logo. I believe only Howa receivers were used. Another clue would be the shape of the rear portion of the receiver. It would have an extended flat to support the Howa rear sight. I can't tell from your pictures. Your TH is definitely Howa as is the operating slide (I can see the characteristic step in the TH lug as well as portions of the grooves in the slide handle). Are there any markings in the sling well? I think it's more likely that the barrel was changed when it was imported. There were reports of barrel damage noted by the importer. That would also explain the GI front sight. ------------- JackP |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Feb 09 2019 at 6:14pm
Ok, I just checked the receiver (gun is at a friends house, getting some work done at my place and I moved my safe until the work is done.....lucky he's close). It's differently a Howa receiver, 5 digit serial number in the 02000-03000 range (I'm not posting the exact number of course  )Barrel makes sense, shame it doesn't have the Howa made one, I bought it as a shooter but now it's something different
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Posted By: David Albert
Date Posted: Feb 09 2019 at 8:56pm
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About 8-10 years ago, one of the front row vendors at the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot had about 30 of the Howa Carbines available for sale at $600 each. I looked over every one of them, intending to buy one, but for some reason, I passed. This was one of those times I wish I had decided differently. The lowest serial number I observed was in the 1800 range. Anyway, I wish I would have purchased one. They were all the same as this one, featuring the Thai crest. David Albert dalbert@sturmgewehr.com ------------- NRA Life Member Past Pres., The American Thompson Association Amer. Society of Arms Collectors OGCA/TCA/Carbine Club/GCA/IAA SAR Writer Author - The Many Firearm Designs of Eugene Reising Eagle Scout |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Feb 09 2019 at 9:30pm
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[QUOTE=David Albert]About 8-10 years ago, one of the front row vendors at the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot had about 30 of the Howa Carbines available for sale at $600 each. I looked over every one of them, intending to buy one, but for some reason, I passed. This was one of those times I wish I had decided differently. The lowest serial number I observed was in the 1800 range. Anyway, I wish I would have purchased one. David Albert mailto:dalbert@sturmgewehr.com%5b/QUOTE" rel="nofollow - dalbert@sturmgewehr.com[/QUOTE ] If they were in the $600 dollar range a decade ago then what I paid for mine doesn't seem too bad
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Posted By: sleeplessnashadow
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 7:34am
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Hi DonFlynn I did the research and authored the web pages on the Howa carbines. Since yours has the logo of the Royal Thai Police on the front of the receiver the entire carbine was made by Howa for the Royal Thai Police. Take a look at the top of the trigger housing lug at the rear of the trigger housing. That step is a hallmark of one Howa made. Ditto the vertical serrations in the slide handle. Your front sight and barrel are replacements for the Howa parts that were there. Most likely put on the carbine by whoever imported it. Ditto the stock and handguard. Are there any markings or a logo on either side of the rear sight? The rear sight used by Howa on those for Thailand is fairly distinctive and yours wasn't one of them. Howa made stamped adjustable rear sights for the carbines in the 50's but not used on those made for Thailand. Take a real close look at the left side of the receiver between the rear of the receiver and slide track and see if there are any markings there.  All of the Thai carbines were bought by a Canadian company. Those in the USA the vast majority were purchased from the Canadian company by Old Sacramento Armory in Sacramento, CA using the name New Helvetica Corp. Thus the initials NHM. They put the import mark on the barrel for some of them. But if Old Sac sapped out the Howa barrel it wouldn't have the import mark. Check the receiver as shown above. A few, and meaning a handful, were imported by a few collectors using a couple small importers. I spoke with 2 of the employees who worked at Old Sac Armory when the Howa's arrived. The condition of the carbines was what one might imagine from having served in a jungle environment subject to monsoons. Most the wood was rotted and/or broken. Many the barrels were bulged inside the bore from having been fired when the barrel bore was blocked. Likely by mud and debris but possible due to a bullet lodged in the barrel. Old Sac tried to sell them without doing any work. They got so many returns they regrouped. Refinished the metal and replaced the parts that needed to be replaced. I would need to see closer pics of the various parts to attempt to ID which are Howa vs GI replacements done by Old Sac Armory or an owner afterwards. I have a good example of the Thai Royal Police carbines on the 3rd page of the Howa carbines along with their history. Made 10,000 1965-1966 specifically and only for the Royal Thai Police. No Howa markings but I'll leave the why to reading the web page... http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/carbine_howa3.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/carbine_howa3.html You paid the average price they been selling for recently. Jim |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 10:05am
Thanks Jim, when I can get to my friends house again to get a look at it (work should be done on my place this week, then I gotta move the safe's back) I'll take better pictures. I don't remember any markings in the position you mention, and looked for them when I was buying the carbine. I was looking import marks when I first looked at it. I'll check the sight too (I might be able to swing by my buddies place later if he's home....I gotta keep him from fondling it anyway....he's got the keys/combo to my safes in case something bad happens to me while I'm getting work done) Sounds like the importer or past owner did the work needed to get a functioning carbine out of it, if it shoots I'll be happy.
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Posted By: shadycon
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 1:15pm
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Taiwan or Thailand? ------------- M1's are FUN!!! TSMG's are more FUN!!! |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 1:42pm
Thailand, the gun counter guy told me Taiwanese but from the research we've been doing it's a Royal Thai Howa made one
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Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 1:53pm
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OK, I looked on the left side receiver track, if I looked at the right spot there's no import markings, must have been on the barrel. Here's the rear sight again  You can see the crest with a "H" in it, I'm guessing that's Howa Top of the sight  I'm not sweating the serial number, I figure I gotta receipt Left side  Slide  It's got the Howa serrations you mentioned Jim, didn't see any other markings on the slide or TG That's where that brass shim I mentioned was. I'm guessing the hand guard had more play then the last owner liked, feels like a normal M-1 Carbine too me
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Posted By: jackp1028
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 3:36pm
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I believe your Howa receiver was modified to accept the USGI sight. The rear flat surface behind the dovetail was originally wider on the Howa receiver than on a USGI receiver. The "H" in a shield on the rear sight is not for Howa. It was made by Hemphill Mfg. Co., Pawtucket, R.I. Commonly found on later Winchester carbines. Also, the recoil plate appears to be a cast post war replacement possibly made by Rock Island Arsenal. Note the visible parting line. The Howa recoil plate would have been machined, not cast. By the way, nice pictures! ------------- JackP |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 3:51pm
Interesting. I didn't think the Howa's could use a USGI sight from what Jim's article said. That might make life easier if I ever have to replace it (my Blue Sky marked Inland is getting one when I can send it in to Fulton Armory for a new barrel) Thanks for the picture compliment. I took my better DSLR and a semi macro lens when I went over my friends house before
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Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 6:08pm
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Hmm, either Howa changed how they made the receiver or something is amiss. Take a look at the length and style of the slide slot Jim posted and compare to yours, clearly different. Then there is the rear of dovetail differances. Howa should not be able to accept a adjustable rear sight. Think you can take pictures of the receiver from all sides. Picture of recoil lug on back of receiver. Maybe a picture of the front ring logo with slide out of way ------------- http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/club-assistance-saginaw-receivers_topic4716.html" rel="nofollow - Club Survey Saginaw Receivers |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 6:23pm
I won't be able to get to my buddies house again till weekend after next, going out of town this coming Friday. Could Howa have used one of receivers they might have made for US or JSDF Carbines on the Royal Thai order? We know it's common with other companies (FN and Browning Hi Powers comes to mind)
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Posted By: jackp1028
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 6:54pm
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@Dan, good observation. Also, note the proof punch mark on the receiver in front of the rear sight. You don't see this on other Howa receiver images online. Maybe this is a GI receiver with the U.S. markings removed and Howa markings added. ------------- JackP |
Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 7:01pm
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Don, no rush, we will be here Jack, that was my thought. With receiver details I might be able to figure what make. Also very interesting is the front ring, wonder if ruminants of original marks. ------------- http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/club-assistance-saginaw-receivers_topic4716.html" rel="nofollow - Club Survey Saginaw Receivers |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 7:13pm
I get a chance I'll take it apart and take detailed pictures. I've a decent photo rig here I use for another hobby (I build plastic model kits and take photo's of them for internet use) but it's a pain to lug around
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Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 7:27pm
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I just reread you post and you said "inland receiver with inland barrel" Does it say inland above the serial number? It might be under the rear sight When you do get to pictures can you take a picture of the hand guard with brass piece zoomed or for perspective of where the cut is ------------- http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/club-assistance-saginaw-receivers_topic4716.html" rel="nofollow - Club Survey Saginaw Receivers |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 7:52pm
I looked under the rear sight with my magnifying glasses, there is nothing under it besides the serial number. I posted Inland receiver originally because the gun shop had it listed (and my receipt says) Inland M-1 Carbine. My guess is the shop figured the crest on the receiver was like the Bavarian Police Carbines CMP got in years ago, markings added after the fact and they just assumed since the barrel was Inland and there's no import markings they listed it as a Inland. They did say the owner of the gun saying he thought the gun had been "rebuilt" in Japan so I guess the past owner figured it was done under US contract post Korea and then found it's way back through something like the CMP program
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Posted By: Why Carbines?
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 8:39pm
| It does look an awful lot like an USGI receiver and that was before I went over to Jim's website and compared pictures. The Rockwell mark in front of the rear sight is interesting. |
Posted By: sleeplessnashadow
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 11:33pm
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It looks like someone removed all the markings on a GI receiver and replaced them with the Thai Police logo and a serial number in the sequence Howa used for the Thai police. I'd already noticed the logo looked off center but thought maybe it was just the angle of the pic. The serial number doesn't look as deep as those by Howa. Photos of the sides and bottom of the receiver should answer the question of what it was originally. Howa didn't do the lightening cut on the left side of the receivers for Thailand or their commercial sporting carbines. But they also didn't do the rear sight dovetail like yours or the length of the slide track like yours. The question then is, who dun it. My first thought was the Thai Border Police. Records of the Military Assistance Program indicate Thailand received 73,012 U.S. carbines between 1951 and 1976. Their border police were/are para military. There were enough carbines floating around S/E Asia from us, the Brits, the French, and the Dutch that the weapon was pretty common. Changing the serial number isn't logical but this is jungle armorer logic with an agency that didn't take good care of their carbines. Howa made carbines for their Self Defense Forces. I haven't seen one yet. Only info is 2nd and 3rd hand that they were sold in or to S/E Asia and Australia. We may have a lead on a location that has a couple of them. It's been on hold so we didn't overwhelm them with requests as they have a few items of interest. Time to ask. I suspect your receiver is a GI receiver that's had it's markings replaced. Jim |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Feb 10 2019 at 11:59pm
When I get the time I'll take a better picture of both the crest and serial number, plus take better photo's of everything. I was getting a picture of the shim mark and think the picture looks canted a tad on my file screen I could see adding the crest as a stamp but wouldn't it have taken a lot of work to erase any USGI markings? I can't see a armorer anywhere spending that much effort when they could have filed some kind of loss report and drawn a new weapon from supply. Give me a couple weeks, I'll start a new thread and get my photo rig set up ( my sister has my macro lens.......memo to forum members, never recommend to a relative the same DSLR type you use.....you'll never see 1/2 your gear)
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Posted By: sleeplessnashadow
Date Posted: Feb 11 2019 at 12:34am
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Thinking Thai Border Police reminded me .... In 2009 I made contact with an American who lives in Thailand and does contract work for the Thai National Police. Including the Border Police. He sent me this pic of a Border Police patrol team and indicated that while they were issued or offered the standard rifle at a particular time they could carry whatever they wanted. He also provided some basic info on their operations. The nutshell version is many different teams stationed along the borders that had a standard military type chain of command but each team pretty much operated with a lot of latitude in how they did things. Kind of necessary given the the environment they worked in. Their main focus was the border with Cambodia and the Khmer Rouge (Cambodia communists). He indicated the police had a central armory but maintenance was handled on a local level. At the main armory he'd seen railroad box cars full of carbines piled on top of one another. Not unlike descriptions I've heard of carbines and other weapons in various 3rd World countries worldwide. He didn't know if they were surplus or where they were headed. These fellas weren't what we might think of as police officers. They were a paramilitary border patrol operating in a hostile jungle (in more than one way). (To view a larger version click on the image) http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forumpics/ThaiBorderprayong.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Jim |
Posted By: sleeplessnashadow
Date Posted: Feb 11 2019 at 12:39am
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The photos below were shared with me back in 2012. I can't recall who shared them but it was the owner of the carbine. I can't recall where he lived but don't think it was the USA. May have been New Zealand or Canada. Or I may have that wrong and just don't remember. Point being, the carbines made by Howa weren't the only carbines used by the Thai Border Police. The second pic may be upside down. (To view a larger version click on the image) http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forumpics/ThaiBorderWin01.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forumpics/ThaiBorderWin02.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Jim |
Posted By: sleeplessnashadow
Date Posted: Feb 11 2019 at 1:07am
I think it best if we stick to this one thread. That way it keeps everything together for those reading it in the future years. Other countries removing the U.S. markings from a carbine has not been the norm but hasn't been uncommon. Some of the police agencies in West Germany did this. Here's just one example http://www.bavarianm1carbines.com/carbineGBR_AGN_fubog1.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.bavarianm1carbines.com/carbineGBR_AGN_fubog1.html The Austrian Gendarmerie in the land/state of Upper Austria did this frequently but not always. One example: http://www.bavarianm1carbines.com/carbineAGO_0112.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.bavarianm1carbines.com/carbineAGO_0112.html There are more examples in the Armory on BavarianM1Carbines.com: http://www.bavarianm1carbines.com/Armory.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.bavarianm1carbines.com/Armory.html I've seen it with other carbines, some of which we don't know who did it. Sometimes it was all the U.S. markings were removed. Sometimes only some of the markings. Sometimes only parts of the letters and numbers as if someone was buffing out the surface to make it shiny. Those done by the German and Austrian police agencies the quantities suggest it was the agency that made the decision. For whatever reason. Back to the Thai Border Police. Imagine working out of a jungle border outpost with first echelon maintenance being almost all echelons maintenance done by a local source that may have been specific to only a few outposts or just the one. Cannibalizing carbines for spare parts has been a common practice as it has with many firearms. Military, police, owners. With a Thai jungle outpost they likely didn't have a timely supply of spare replacement parts, if any at all. Some places it wasn't as simple as drawing another carbine from the arsenal or police station. They had to make do with what they had available. Not just in Thailand. Couple years ago we had contact with a police officer or military reservist in the Philippines who still carried an M1 carbine. Their standard issue when he first joined was the M16 with the open pronged flash suppressor. He opted for the carbine instead as it was easier to work with in the jungle. And was still carrying it. His source for replacement parts included the internet. Jim |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Feb 11 2019 at 10:39am
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I'll post new info here then Jim. I was thinking that Winchester Carbine with the Thai crest looks like something done in the field. I'm just hoping mine shoots decent, I wanted another one (I have 3 already, CMP Inland, Blue Sky marked Inland I'm planning on having Fulton Armory rebarrel and a Fulton Armory one). Sucks not having the time till March to get to a range but between work and personal crap I was actually surprised I had time to stop at a gun shop this past weekend
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Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Mar 07 2019 at 7:59pm
Ok, I finally got a chance to take a few more pics   Pics of the Thai crest without the charging handle in the way I found the import mark, it's on right side of the receiver. It's the same as this http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/howaimport.jpg" rel="nofollow - http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/howaimport.jpg It's very small and lightly marked, explained why I missed it. You got me why it's got a USGI rear sight. My guess is someone modified the mount or receiver somehow. Still ain't had a chance to shoot it, work has had me on 6 days a week, going out of town this weekend so that's how I got tonite and the weekend off
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Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Mar 07 2019 at 8:25pm
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Looks like a Winchester receiver. The rear sight would be correct for winchester. Can you show other side of receiver, back and bottom? ------------- http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/club-assistance-saginaw-receivers_topic4716.html" rel="nofollow - Club Survey Saginaw Receivers |
Posted By: sleeplessnashadow
Date Posted: Mar 07 2019 at 8:45pm
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Agree with Dan that it would help to see the left side, back and bottom. It's not like any Howa receiver I've seen, Thai Police or otherwise. That indent at the rear of the integral spring tube was done by a few of the GI receiver manufacturers. Never seen it on other than U.S. GI receivers. I defer to Dan on which GI mfg made the receiver. Receiver ring shows marks consistent with removal of the original markings. Jim |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Mar 07 2019 at 9:19pm
Here we go       Still trying to get a clear pic of the import mark. It does say "NHM CO SAC CA" |
Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Mar 10 2019 at 9:08am
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Yup, that's a Winchester receiver! Seems they got their hands on some USGI carbines and remarked them. I see the import markings on the sight base. On the breach of the barrel under the green stuff, you probably can make out a number or letter Was there any markings on the bolt, hammer or other small parts? ------------- http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/club-assistance-saginaw-receivers_topic4716.html" rel="nofollow - Club Survey Saginaw Receivers |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Mar 10 2019 at 9:30am
Not seeing any, I'll take another look later
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Posted By: m1a1fan
Date Posted: Mar 10 2019 at 9:56am
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@DonFlynn - What a cool carbine and a Winch receiver! Thanks for sharing. Glad this thread cycled back to the top as I had missed it. In Jim's picture above, the border guard pointing has a carbine. It looks like an enforcer type carbine or one that was customized to his liking. Can't imagine what goes on when local "armorers" get their hands on a carbine. Just wondering, is there such a thing as an original condition Thai carbine? |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Mar 17 2019 at 12:08pm
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Well, this sucks. I finally got a chance to shoot this thing. 1st 50 rounds only problem was 1 stovepipe around the 40th round. I was using the USGI mag that came with the rifle so I wrote that off as the mag (I started out with 5 rounds, then 10 then 15 so I figured needs a new spring). Decide to try a couple Korean mags the shop I bought it from sold me cheap and those won't feed past 4-5 rounds....no problem me thinks, they were only $5.00 a pop. Go to clear the last FTF and switch to using my "good" USGI mags and I notice the damn rear sight is 2/3rds the way out of the damn slot.....I pulled it off there at the range. I gave up after that, 82 rounds fired. I'm going to call the shop and see what they say. I can push the rear sight back on but I know enough about Carbines to know that ain't right. Thoughts?
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Posted By: W5USMC
Date Posted: Mar 17 2019 at 12:15pm
Clean the receiver dove tail, clean the rear sight base. Try using blue loc-tite to glue it back in place. ------------- Wayne USMC Retired NRA Life Member |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Mar 17 2019 at 5:41pm
I'm not sure that will work. The rear sight should fit tighter IMO
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Posted By: jackp1028
Date Posted: Mar 17 2019 at 6:08pm
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I agree with Wayne on using the blue Loctite. It's the safest way to go. Another method often suggested is to cut a dovetail sized piece of aluminum out of a soda can and use it to shim underneath the sight. However that might be too tight. The receiver dovetail is probably pretty brittle by now so avoid using force that might cause it to chip off. In fact, if it's that loose, it may already be cracked. I'd stick with the Loctite. ------------- JackP |
Posted By: sleeplessnashadow
Date Posted: Mar 17 2019 at 6:28pm
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The adjustable rear sights were designed with half circle inlets for the purpose of staking the sight in place. Shown in the first 3 pics are the milled adjustable rear sight on the left with the stamped adjustable rear sight on the right. Note the position of the half circle inlets allows for staking the sight to the front and rear of the dovetail opening. The receiver in the area of the dovetail was hardened slightly less than the rest of the receiver for this purpose. A word of CAUTION. Some have made the mistake of staking the rear sight in place by bending the upper 4 corners of the dovetail downward to hold the sight in place: front and back on the right side of the sight and front and back on the left side of the sight. The receiver metal was not designed for bending those 4 corners downward. Inevitably someone eventually tries to bend them back upwards and finds they can snap off. I'll try to come up with a pic that shows the bent dovetail corners. Below the first pics are some examples of adjustable rear sights that have been staked in place. With two having been staked more than once and not necessarily in the half circles. All that's required to do this is a punch the size of the half circle, a hammer, and a means of holding the receiver as the stake marks are placed. Sometimes over time with repeated rear sight removal and replacement the dovetail can become enlarged. Or a newer rear sight may be too large to fit into the dovetail. If the sight is too large the remedy is cautious filing of the front and rear edge of the bottom of the sight where it fits into the dovetail. If the dovetail is too large sometimes the staking will still hold the sight securely. If necessary the top edges of the dovetail can be bent ever so slightly downwards to tighten the fit of the rear sight. This is something that should be done with the rear sight in place within the dovetail to provide a means of support so the dovetail edges aren't bent too much. Go cautious and easy on the metal of the dovetail. Use of a threadlocker adhesive to hold the rear sight in place has two shortcomings. First, the adhesive will hold the rear sight in place for a time but the recoil of the rifle can overcome the strength of the threadlocker. Second, the amount of force necessary to remove a rear sight that has been secured with threadlocker puts extra stress on the edges of the dovetail. (To view a larger version click on the image) http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forumpics/rearsightstake00.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forumpics/rearsightstake01.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forumpics/rearsightstake02.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forumpics/rearsightstake06.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forumpics/rearsightstake04.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forumpics/rearsightstake05.jpg" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Mar 17 2019 at 6:53pm
Don't worry, I'm not doing anything on this one for a few days. I want to see what the shop I bought it from says 1st. Worst case, I'm planning on sending my Blue Sky marked Inland to Fulton Armory for a new barrel, new rear sight and general tune up, I can see if they can put a new sight on this one and doing a tune up on it too (my Carbine plans for this year were having them tune up my CMP Inland, that will give me 4 Carbines counting the new FA made one I have) |
Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Mar 20 2019 at 11:31am
| I talked to the gun shop, their going to install a new sight and fit it as needed. Since this isn't a pure USGI or Howa anyway I'll be good with a new one. The rifle is going to be a shooter anyway.... |