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Ntl M1 Carbine Display & Competition - AL (2006)

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Topic: Ntl M1 Carbine Display & Competition - AL (2006)
Posted By: sleeplessnashadow
Subject: Ntl M1 Carbine Display & Competition - AL (2006)
Date Posted: Dec 25 2017 at 3:08am
Alabama Gun Collectors Association Display Show
Birmingham-Jefferson Convention Complex
Birmingham, AL
2006

Photographs have been provided courtesy of the show's organizer Paul Imbragulio.

See if you can name the guys with the white gloves on...


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Posted By: wmmwraghd
Date Posted: Dec 25 2017 at 10:40am
Thank you for posting these and thank you Paul for sharing. Merry Christmas to all!!


Posted By: usmcdoc67
Date Posted: Dec 25 2017 at 11:32am
OUTSTANDING then & now. My great friend & fellow collector. Have learned so much from Paul and appreciate all he's done & will continue to do for our hobby.

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Glenn


Posted By: welbytwo
Date Posted: Dec 25 2017 at 5:42pm
again--awesome!


Posted By: m1a1fan
Date Posted: Dec 26 2017 at 12:20am
Looks like Larry Ruth. Great pics, thanks for sharing!


Posted By: swamprat
Date Posted: Aug 10 2018 at 10:26pm
Glad I checked this out!

When's the next one? It's only been a decade. it's time!


Posted By: LMTmonoMan
Date Posted: Aug 11 2018 at 12:33am
My word, I wonder where all those carbines are now.   If only I was into carbines in 2006, as I would have surely been there.

I've now attended two AGCA shows, and both were like Disney land for a gun collector. The most recent one was a western themed one mainly, but had very large displays of USGI 1911s, and Lugers. The first one I attended was military themed and had two large carbine displays, but I wasn't educated enough at that time to fully appreciate everything I was looking at.


Can't recommend the AGCA shows enough, especially since they moved to Hoover. I'd be so excited to learn about them doing this again, and would love to do any grunt work on the ground to help out since it's local to me.


Posted By: sleeplessnashadow
Date Posted: Aug 11 2018 at 1:46am
I started the posts on the displays hoping others would join in. Exhibitors sharing pics of their carbine related displays as well as those who see the displays getting a few pics if they can and sharing.

Most shows forbid pics, some even by the exhibitors. I understand their reasoning but what's the goal of having a display in the first place? All that time, effort and work for a limited audience for a limited time. I am hoping others can see the benefits of showing an exhibit here. Your responses help show them. Thanks.

Jim


Posted By: m1a1fan
Date Posted: Aug 11 2018 at 2:57am
Here here, would love to team up with others for some kind of show display. The last display I saw was at Dulles, but it wasn't carbine related. Instead, it was a meeting of the GCA.

It would be great for the CCC to do the same somewhere.

Have all the folks in the pictures been identified? They must be long time members.


Posted By: David Albert
Date Posted: Aug 11 2018 at 8:51am
If the club ever wants to display at an NRA Annual Meeting, I have participated in 9 Thompson displays at various NRA convention venues, and could offer insight on the costs, and how to approach and manage a display at such an event. There are also other very good venues, such as OGCA, Michigan Antique Arms Association, and a couple of other regional shows that welcome displays. Participation costs range widely.

David Albert
dalbert@sturmgewehr.com

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NRA Life Member
Past President, The American Thompson Association
American Society of Arms Collectors
OGCA/TCA/Carbine Club/GCA/IAA
Contributing Writer, Small Arms Review Magazine
Eagle Scout, NESA


Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: Aug 11 2018 at 10:04am
Ted,If you think it worthy and of interest, I would be honored to display ( THE GIFT) in an up coming  nearby show. 
Charles


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Charles
Co B 1st Batl.115 Inf. Reg.
29th. Divi.
4.2 Heavy Mortar Co Retired
Life member NRA



Posted By: old59porsche
Date Posted: Aug 11 2018 at 11:02am
Correction: The three judges were: Martin McVeigh, Ron Wellman, and Larry Ruth. I was there with 3 of my carbines on display. It was a great effort by Paul I. much at his own expense. All the Alabama club did was provide space.
I doubt that such a gathering of wonderful carbines will ever take place again.


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Retired Army Guy


Posted By: m1a1fan
Date Posted: Aug 11 2018 at 11:11am
Charles, it might take a while to put together, but I like the idea. Dave T. might make three.

First step: A safe, secure way to display.

@oldporshce: I've read Ron Wellman was there as well.


Posted By: old59porsche
Date Posted: Aug 11 2018 at 11:19am
In years prior to this show, many club members met in Birmingham annually to show, tell and trade. Other pics of 2006 and 2007 shows have many old time collectors, many of whom are not with us any more.


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Retired Army Guy


Posted By: LMTmonoMan
Date Posted: Aug 11 2018 at 4:09pm
The next AGCA show is Oct 13th/14th at the Hoover Met, in Hoover, Alabama. I'd be willing to rent a booth or two, and provide it for a display only purpose.


I won't allow myself to believe that this type of event could never take place again now that I learned the first one existed. I couldn't have dreamed up a more exciting, educational, and ultimately enjoyable event than what is posted in the OP.

I'd love to do a three day event...Friday to Sunday.

On Friday we could organize a shoot N greet Carbine shooting session at Talladega Shooting Park, and give attendees a great chance to see the new shooting facility and check out the Garands and various wares inside the Talladega West store.


On Sat. we could have a swap meet, display expo, and perhaps even a dedicated booth attended by carbine experts in the field of assembly, disassembly, and repair. Folks could get their troublesome carbines fixed, checked, assembled, disassembled, etc. with headspace gauges, armorer's tools, ME/TE gauges, etc. for a fee or not. We could also do an authenticating service at this booth, where folks could get questionable rifles, and parts checked out for authenticity for a fee or not.


On Sunday we could have the grand finale with the actual competition, and judging of carbines by a vetted, expert panel. Include multiple categories like Best Carbine, Best Collection, Best Variant, Best Shooter, etc.


So we could either try and approach this through going with an existing show/organization like the Oct AGCA show, or draw the entire thing up from scratch and do it ourselves.


Posted By: arthur
Date Posted: Aug 11 2018 at 7:49pm
I thought by now someone would identify the the white gloved judges. Left to right Martin McVay, Ron Wellman and Larry Ruth. The White gloved gentleman with a carbine on each arm is the show's sponsor Paul Imbragulio. I missed that show but caught the one the next year. Great show Paul,well done!


Posted By: m1a1fan
Date Posted: Aug 13 2018 at 7:37pm
Paul did a great job indeed. I'd imagine the others were just as well done. Have seen pics of a few others out west and and Inland expose at a show though I can't remember where. Cheers to those who put on this kind of stuff.

The best part of the above pics is the Rock-Ola cartouche I've never seen. Great stuff!


Posted By: swamprat
Date Posted: Aug 14 2018 at 7:32pm
It's been a decade, it's time to do another!


Posted By: Newsman2
Date Posted: Nov 23 2018 at 11:06pm
Found this searching for information about NPM. Think I've seen it previously, but not completely sure. Has anyone else seen this exhibit?

Military History Society of Rochester




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Posted By: sleeplessnashadow
Date Posted: Nov 23 2018 at 11:48pm
The Military History Society of Rochester is a small museum run by one curator. Larry Ruth, author of the War Baby series on the carbines, lives outside Rochester and has been working with them occasionally for many years. They do have their own small collection and Larry contributes some of his collection "on loan" for their changing displays.

Not sure if or how often they display at a gun show. Larry usually attends the main one in Rochester and another in Syracuse. He's done his own small displays at both.

The small museum is located about a half mile west of the old National Postal Meter/Commercial Controls facility that was located on Culver between Atlantic and Humboldt. The NPM main building has had a superficial rework and last I heard it was being partitioned into a bunch of smaller office spaces.

Jim


Posted By: zenfly
Date Posted: Nov 24 2018 at 5:03am
Soon after I joined here I saved several of these pics for my desk top.


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Fly Fishing boat Capt Port Canaveral..FFF / CCI


Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Nov 24 2018 at 5:39pm
Does anyone remember which Carbine Club Newsletter that had a front page picture of this show and crowd?
I believe it was the first show, but could have been the 2nd year.
I wasn't a member of the Club at that time so I don't have the Newsletter.

I ask because a Dear friend on mine recently passed away who was there and pictured among the crowd on that front page, he called it ."Priceless"
He was a long time member of The Carbine Club and volunteered at the CMP.
His name: Charles Waldrop from Birmingham, AL.
One of the Original Bhama Gang.

I'd greatly appreciate any help.
I'm hoping to be able to buy a couple copies.
One I can keep, the other to send to his family.

VR
Charlie


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Living Free because of those that serve.....


Posted By: old59porsche
Date Posted: Nov 24 2018 at 7:35pm
The story was written by Richard Van Damme and appeared as a "Special Edition" Summer 2006. The newsletter had no volume #, and it was in the form of a booklet rather than individual pages. The pages were numbered SE-1 thru SE-12, featuring 25 pictures taken at the show. Besides Paul Imbragulio, the organizer, pictures of Doug Yates, the three judges: Larry Ruth, Ron Wellman and Martin McVay, Marty Black, Richard Van Damme the author of this story, Richard Wright, Gary Lahrman and Phillip Taylor appeared. Though not identified, I appear as a part of a group photograph.
The booklet is copyrighted and I will not reproduce without permission.


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Retired Army Guy


Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Nov 24 2018 at 8:30pm
Do Appreciate your reply old59porsche,
I didn't become a member until after the shows that Paul and the others worked so hard on.
I still have the last 2 Newsletters that would ever be sent out before we went to a Web set up.... still un-opened. I'm saving them.... like NOS in the Wrap.

I'll look through the index and look for This Special Edition, in hopes of being able to buy a couple.
You've been a big help just letting me know that it wasn't a numbered Newsletter...... I had no way to know.
I'll try contacting Marty and see what can be done...... Legally by all means.
I do understand from years of being a member and working with David B, BQ, Chris A, Marcus, Mike from New Zealand... etc that all falls under Copyright. I wasn't trying to sneak around the barn... I'll use the front doors.

Again Appreciate your help and your service,

Charlie Holland
Painter777


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Living Free because of those that serve.....


Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Nov 24 2018 at 9:39pm
Is The Special Edition known as The Special Report as referred to in the CCNL index?
Did it come with CCNL #335?
If I'm able to order/pay for 2 of these back issues of #335 CCNL's, will the Special Reports (x2) come with the order?

Copied/pasted below from the CCNL Index PDF:

335. Singer Manufacturing name, Inland inspection manual part 1, Low and high serial numbers on record, WWII carbine production summary, Unusual parts markings (more, since NL 332), El Salvador carbines (more, since NL 333), Recoil plate and stock fit. Special Report (un-numbered issue, re: the 2006 Birmingham gunshow carbine display).

Thx,
Charlie-Painter777


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Living Free because of those that serve.....


Posted By: painter777
Date Posted: Nov 26 2018 at 11:12am
Anyone able to add to my above post ?.
See reply 56 in link below

https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=23202&page=6" rel="nofollow - https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=23202&page=6

Thank You


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Living Free because of those that serve.....


Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Nov 26 2018 at 12:11pm
Charlie, sent you an email

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