Front sight
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Topic: Front sight
Posted By: Charles
Subject: Front sight
Date Posted: Dec 06 2017 at 2:29pm
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Anyone know how one would raise the front sight to lower the point of impact, say 2 " at 25 yards? I believe there was a formula for grinding a sight down to raise the point of impact as was necessary after manufacture. Charles ------------- Charles Co B 1st Batl.115 Inf. Reg. 29th. Divi. 4.2 Heavy Mortar Co Retired Life member NRA |
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Posted By: floydthecat
Date Posted: Dec 06 2017 at 3:45pm
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If the rear is not already set at the lowest point (assuming it's adjustable), U could just lower it and see if it will pull POI down. Your other choice would be to build-up the post with something like a JB Weld or spring for a new-sight. They can be removed without the tool. |
Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Dec 06 2017 at 11:33pm
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I think the problem is that the carbine was never sighted in for close range. The bullet trajectory is rising at that point. I believe some factory ranges had a way to compensate when sighting in new carbines. IP used numbered sights with each step being .015 of an inch. longest blade was .795 measured from top of blade to center of bore. I believe one of the manuals gives the formula to correct POI however it may be different at 25 yards. ------------- http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/club-assistance-saginaw-receivers_topic4716.html" rel="nofollow - Club Survey Saginaw Receivers |
Posted By: Uncle Mike
Date Posted: Dec 07 2017 at 12:06am
| Hi, I had the same problem and I replaced the front sight. I got a GI sight online but had to specify a long uncut sight. I got one from Fulton Armory and had to send the first one back. I complained and the owner sent me a replacement. This was 10 years ago so a GI made be hard to find. Bill Ricca has them listed but I believe he's having problems with his web site; I would call, regards, Mike |
Posted By: Ghostman
Date Posted: Dec 08 2017 at 6:40pm
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I just ordered and received 2 each, "N" marked front sights from an Ebay vendor, "nenel3" in France. This was the 2nd time that I have ordered from him. My dealings with him have been overall good. Sometimes he doesn't answer questions but his parts have been original and as described even though the picture on the auction was of "R" marked sights.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/M1-CARBINE-FRONT-SIGHT-N-marked-WW2-US-GI/292302671311?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/M1-CARBINE-FRONT-SIGHT-N-marked-WW2-US-GI/292302671311?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 ------------- Michael Retired Army 1987-2008 4th ID Mech, 11th ACR, 25th ID light, 82nd Abn, 101st Abn/AAsslt, 160th SOAR Helicopter Dr. VCDL member NRA Life Member Weapons & History Enthusiast |
Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: Dec 08 2017 at 9:48pm
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Not wanting to replace the sight,I fashioned a piece of metal in the shape of a U that fits snugly over the blade that will bring the muzzle down to hopefully the amount I need. I will be going to the range Monday and will post the results. ------------- Charles Co B 1st Batl.115 Inf. Reg. 29th. Divi. 4.2 Heavy Mortar Co Retired Life member NRA |
Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: May 07 2018 at 7:47pm
 Came up with this. 1/8" ISD tube and 1/8" OSD fiber optic . Attatched with GB Weld. Havn't been to the range yet. Anxous to see resulte. ------------- Charles Co B 1st Batl.115 Inf. Reg. 29th. Divi. 4.2 Heavy Mortar Co Retired Life member NRA |
Posted By: dennis
Date Posted: Jun 03 2018 at 10:10am
| Did the fiber optic tube stay on after firing? |
Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: Jun 03 2018 at 10:23am
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Broke my elbow since then,haven’t been to the range ,will post results later Charles ------------- Charles Co B 1st Batl.115 Inf. Reg. 29th. Divi. 4.2 Heavy Mortar Co Retired Life member NRA |
Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Jun 05 2018 at 7:29pm
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Our former Inland Employee Ron Dalhamer wanted to share these historic images from Inland on sighting the carbine 100 yard elevated range off 2nd floor of bldg 20  elevated range over Bish ave. Foundry on right in background.  targets front view.  targets rear view showing bullet traps.  targeteers station along left back wall. The man in right foreground is grinding the carbine's front sight to targeteers specification to zero in.  different view of front sight grinding adjustment..............Ron  ------------- http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/club-assistance-saginaw-receivers_topic4716.html" rel="nofollow - Club Survey Saginaw Receivers |
Posted By: rwsem1
Date Posted: Jun 06 2018 at 5:54am
| That's pretty cool! |
Posted By: Donnie
Date Posted: Jun 13 2018 at 3:10pm
Please keep us posted if this mod worked for you. |
Charles wrote:Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: Jul 27 2018 at 1:10pm
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Finely got back to the range this morning with my home made fiber optic front sight. Not only stayed on in spite of the recoil but
withstood the high temperature from firing 75 rounds. I had to re zero
of coarse and determine where the red dot should be on the bulls eye. By
the time I got finished, I wound up with golf ball size groups at 25
yards.  Charles
------------- Charles Co B 1st Batl.115 Inf. Reg. 29th. Divi. 4.2 Heavy Mortar Co Retired Life member NRA |
Posted By: jackp1028
Date Posted: Jul 27 2018 at 3:28pm
I built up my front sight with JB Weld. It has held fine for over 3 years. Sure, it looks tacky but I didn't have to "alter" the original sight or switch sights. A little black Sharpie and it almost looks okay. 
------------- JackP |
Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: Jul 27 2018 at 6:40pm
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Looks good to me. ------------- Charles Co B 1st Batl.115 Inf. Reg. 29th. Divi. 4.2 Heavy Mortar Co Retired Life member NRA |