Early Quality Hardware
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Topic: Early Quality Hardware
Posted By: kro1970
Subject: Early Quality Hardware
Date Posted: Oct 12 2017 at 11:13am
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Saw this early QHMC in a local ad so I went to see it and ended up buying it. It appears to be pretty original and is interesting in that it has a type 1 NPM trigger housing. There is documentation in War Baby that NPM sent trigger housings to QHMC during the time this Carbine was assembled. The hand guard which matches in color is marked IO. I can't find any documented lateral support of hand guards from Inland so I think this may be a replaced part. An other interesting feature is the staking of the rear sight. At first glance it looks like it had been staked for an adjustable sight but if you look closely there are no chisel marks and one of the punch marks is so close to the flip sight that it marked both the dove tail and the flip sight. In the QHMC update in the CCNL #334 they mention QHMC using this type of rear sight staking on early receivers. I think this might be an example of that. The barrel band has been repaired but the front sight does not look like it has ever been removed. Hope you enjoy the pictures and any comments are always welcomed. https://imgur.com/a/gJ6ZL" rel="nofollow - https://imgur.com/a/gJ6ZL |
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Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Oct 14 2017 at 2:29pm
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That's a beauty. Type 2 receiver? Need better pics of stake marks ------------- http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/club-assistance-saginaw-receivers_topic4716.html" rel="nofollow - Club Survey Saginaw Receivers |
Posted By: kro1970
Date Posted: Oct 14 2017 at 2:36pm
| Thanks for your response. I'll get some better pictures of the stake marks and check if type 2 receiver later today. |
Posted By: m1a1fan
Date Posted: Oct 14 2017 at 9:44pm
| That's a nice one. Congrats on the find! Looks like COM/FC material. |
Posted By: kro1970
Date Posted: Oct 14 2017 at 11:07pm
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Additional pictures of the rear sight stake marks and receiver https://imgur.com/a/Am99Y" rel="nofollow - https://imgur.com/a/Am99Y |
Posted By: Ghostman
Date Posted: Oct 15 2017 at 12:48pm
| Nice carbine! Nice find! Is that a small "W" on the top of the recoil plate between the 9 and 10 o'clock position? |
Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Oct 15 2017 at 1:36pm
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Just checked my 1.57 with R-O 3-43 barrel Similar stake marks but only rt side front and rear. ------------- http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/club-assistance-saginaw-receivers_topic4716.html" rel="nofollow - Club Survey Saginaw Receivers |
Posted By: kro1970
Date Posted: Oct 15 2017 at 1:46pm
| Mine is also only staked right side front and rear |
Posted By: kro1970
Date Posted: Oct 15 2017 at 1:56pm
Ghostman I think those are machining marks |
Ghostman wrote:Posted By: OAMAAM68
Date Posted: Oct 15 2017 at 3:59pm
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Hello Ken, Nice find! My two earliest Qualities -- 1.550 and 1.565 both have Rock-Ola 1-43 barrels. 1.550 has a GE-Q with no stake marks, chisel or punch. 1.565 has a GE-Q with punch marks just like yours and as described in the NL. SF, Bill |
Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Oct 15 2017 at 4:29pm
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Bill, any pics? Best, Dan ------------- http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/club-assistance-saginaw-receivers_topic4716.html" rel="nofollow - Club Survey Saginaw Receivers |
Posted By: OAMAAM68
Date Posted: Oct 15 2017 at 4:42pm
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Dan -- they're in the back row of the safe. Once I have them out and the camera charged, I'll take some out of focus pics ;-) and post. They are as described. SF, Bill |
Posted By: kro1970
Date Posted: Oct 15 2017 at 6:50pm
| I also have a 1631XXX 8-43 Underwood barrel with the same stake marks |
Posted By: Miata Mike
Date Posted: Oct 15 2017 at 10:39pm
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I have a 1.57 with a Rock-Ola 11-42 barrel that didn't have noticeable stake marks. It was for that reason that I put a genuine flip sight on it. I'll have to dig it out and look at it again one of these days. |
Posted By: welbytwo
Date Posted: Oct 16 2017 at 8:04pm
| note the type 2 springtube notch on the stock--nice one-rare to find in that condition |
Posted By: Dave Tennent
Date Posted: Oct 16 2017 at 8:18pm
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Also, notice the front ring comma (,) after the 30 and before the M1 This tiny detail was present on all early QHMC carbines and went away somewhere between serial number 1621877 and 1626569. Nice find. Dave T ------------- Dave |
Posted By: hunterman
Date Posted: Oct 16 2017 at 8:51pm
Here is my 1.559 with 3-43 R-O barrel, GE-Q sight.
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Posted By: kro1970
Date Posted: Oct 16 2017 at 9:06pm
Staking on my 1631XX 
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Posted By: Rcycles45
Date Posted: Oct 17 2017 at 6:42pm
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Nice Score Ken ! Really like seeing early carbines like this . Looks like it still has all the parts it was born with .. Good luck with it .. I have 155010x , has 11-42 Barrel and type 1 variation A receiver . |
Posted By: patrickduis
Date Posted: Oct 19 2017 at 6:20am
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Very nice find, congrats! ------------- Various Inlands, Underwoods, I.B.M.s and an NPM NVBIW, NVWHT, NVBMB, KNSA member Conservator Military Historical Museum Achtmaal U.S. 104th I.D. Timberwolves www.militairhistorischmuseumachtmaal.nl |