Lend Lease Carbines to Canada
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Topic: Lend Lease Carbines to Canada
Posted By: Lupus Dei
Subject: Lend Lease Carbines to Canada
Date Posted: Dec 21 2015 at 9:09pm
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Posted By: Lupus Dei
Date Posted: Feb 16 2016 at 12:38pm
We have seen very few Canadian returns. Anyone have one they would like to share pictures of?
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Posted By: Dave Tennent
Date Posted: Feb 16 2016 at 8:06pm
Check my math, but that means that those carbines were $31 each and the rounds were about $.025 each. Times have sure changed!
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Posted By: m1a1fan
Date Posted: Feb 16 2016 at 8:15pm
Was there ever a time when we could buy Canadian arms?
Whoa, 2 Thompson's!
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Posted By: Dave Tennent
Date Posted: Feb 16 2016 at 8:31pm
Bren guns were made in Canada. Might be a little pricy today though.
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Posted By: manteo97
Date Posted: Feb 17 2016 at 2:30pm
Wow! This is quite a document find. Ruth indicates in his original book that more that 200 M1 carbines were sent to Canada. I am aware of 3 or 4 INLANDs that probably arrived in late '42 or early '43. They stayed here, and were probably used for training purposes. The ones I know appear to be originals with the Canadian Broad arrow mark on the receiver and stock.
This recent doc indicates a larger number, (+ M1 Garands) and large quantity of 30 carbine ammo came in 1945. One can only speculate as what this was all about.
Cdn forces did not officially use carbines or Garands, but a few were used in-theatre. Cdn forces in the Korean conflict had them, mostly M2's, but again issued to units over there. Our logistic system was based on .303 and 9 mm ammo, so introduction of another calibre of firearm would have led to supply problems.
Maybe these were shipped here as a build up to Cdn forces going to the Pacific post VE day? Canadians were operating in the Pacific/Asian theatre in 1944-45 as Force 136, and used M1 carbines, but were again issued these over there, probably out of British lend-lease stores in India.
A number of M2's (I've seen only 7 mil S/N INLANDs) have been circulating in this country for years, with inner parts removed except for the disconnect lever. These might be part of this group, and disposed of locally by Crown Assets as surplus, or shipped back to USA.
Thanks to Don for finding this document.
Ted in Victoria, BC
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Posted By: welbytwo
Date Posted: Feb 21 2016 at 10:38am
I like how they call the garand--note is the John Garand-never seen that way on inventory sheet
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Posted By: David Albert
Date Posted: Feb 21 2016 at 11:14am
A Canadian M1 Carbine Data Sheet exists, which I thought I had in my collection, but I can't find it. It is referenced by Ruth on page 675. Does anyone else have this document? I will continue to search...
I do have similar Canadian data sheets for the Thompson, Reising, and Sten Submachine Guns.
David Albert dalbert@sturmgewehr.com
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