Other Items Made by Prime and Subcontractors

Fixed one picture.

Do you know what the other was?

Last night came across this product advertisement from Trimble Nurseryland Furniture, Rochester NY.  

One of their first lithographed tinned cans

And a fairly obscure one with their logo on the the bottom.

from  https://twinpeaksblog.com/2020/10/10/twin-peaks-prop-sheriff-trumans-us-president-trash-can/

Smokpole wrote: We all know that there are still numerous undocumented parts transfers from one company to another to keep the lines running. So an oddball part in an otherwise all correct carbine is entirely possible and possibly correct/original. That's why we say, don't be in a hurry to change a single seemingly incorrect part. It might just be original.

Yes, and I'm going to lay a few more examples of what I've encountered in my carbine collecting adventures. Stay tuned!

Charlie

Several factors combine to convince me that although undocumented, the W-B extractor is original to my S.G.. The story, which explained the hunting modifications, combined with price paid & the fact everything else matches up perfectly leads me to believe that Grand Rapids ran some extractors down to Saginaw because they were running short. That, and a helpful member from a forum years ago who was affiliated with some Saginaw club told me it was original when I first mentioned buying it.

Thanks for all your input on this Dan, I'm going to rely on you a little more going forward with oddball parts I'm seeing on other carbines I'm doing data sheets on.

Regards . . .

                Charlie

Some actual IP magazine markings would be IP-I, UP, I-IP, K-IP.

That magazine has been listed for a while, due to the price.

No prime contractor produced magazines. They were contracted for magazines to go with the carbines as well as spares(usually 10% ?).

All the magazines were all subcontracted out.

the government also had direct contracts with some of the companies that made magazines.

CCNL 206-7. 202-1, and 384-15 have information on the markings of parts and how ordnance recommend parts to be marked, but that ordnance would hold the prime contractor responsible.

I recapped this info here.

 

I have never heard of an IP magazine coming out of one of those packages. This was in one of the newsletters as well. But never say never.

It would seem that IP had ordered the wraps and S'G' subcontracted magazines were the only thing reported in them.

Unfortunately the price is driven by people wanting that "Holy Grail" IP carbine and parts.

On the note of spares or contract magazines, QHMC did have a 6-44 contract for 70,000 dollars worth of magazines. This is after carbine production ended for them.

It is unclear if they had magazines left over that ordnance was willing to accept, or just another contract. QHMC had a few contracts after their carbine production ceased.

There are QHMC marked magazine wrappers. It would be interesting to see if all of the magazines in those wrappings are the same marking.