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patrickduis
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to the moderator: I exceeded my upload limit again and still a few museum .30M1s are coming.
Can you please give me some more room on the server for this research work? Thanks. gr. Patrick
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Various Inlands, Underwoods, I.B.M.s and an NPM
NVBIW, NVWHT, NVBMB, KNSA member Conservator Military Historical Museum Achtmaal U.S. 104th I.D. Timberwolves www.militairhistorischmuseumachtmaal.nl |
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Patrick, what are the markings on that Flash Hider?
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Pics compressed, duplicates deleted. All photos are backed up If ANYONE notices a broken or missing picture, please PM me and link the the thread so I can fix. |
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patrickduis
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@New2Brass:
Thanks a lot, I'll upload the rest. @W5USMC: I investigated that flash hider thoroughly, so far found no markings. I'm not sure it is original. Need to have a few more of them in my hands. By the way, here is a nice website devoted on the 104th: 104th Infantry Division - National Timberwolf Pups Association. An Association of the grateful Sons, Daughters, Families and dear Friends of the World War II Veterans of the 104th Infantry Division, U.S Army |
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Various Inlands, Underwoods, I.B.M.s and an NPM
NVBIW, NVWHT, NVBMB, KNSA member Conservator Military Historical Museum Achtmaal U.S. 104th I.D. Timberwolves www.militairhistorischmuseumachtmaal.nl |
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patrickduis
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We continue with the National Postal meter police .30M1 of the topic above.
Underside of the operation rod chamber has a number marking. Never saw that before Some markings on the inside of it. The cleaned parts A rubber buttplate The rubber buttplate is actually quite thick. |
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Various Inlands, Underwoods, I.B.M.s and an NPM
NVBIW, NVWHT, NVBMB, KNSA member Conservator Military Historical Museum Achtmaal U.S. 104th I.D. Timberwolves www.militairhistorischmuseumachtmaal.nl |
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Its a later "Type V" For a deeper discussion of identifying the design changes for the club data sheet, its L379.
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patrickduis
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Thanks for the info. This was the 1st time I saw such a numbered underside operating rod chamber.
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Various Inlands, Underwoods, I.B.M.s and an NPM
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Next Carbine:
A Winchester with folding stock (that can still fold). So it's not original. S/N 1259563 (Oct '43) Barrel marking: AI 2-64 (replaced by Dutch artillerie inrichtingen arsenal) 2 30 shot magazines (forgot to check marking) attached to each other with some sort of clip. W marking on hammer IO marking on handguard (Overton) .U. marking (Underwood) |
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Various Inlands, Underwoods, I.B.M.s and an NPM
NVBIW, NVWHT, NVBMB, KNSA member Conservator Military Historical Museum Achtmaal U.S. 104th I.D. Timberwolves www.militairhistorischmuseumachtmaal.nl |
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Good info on original flash hiders can be found in the link below.
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patrickduis
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Thanks for the good info on the flash hiders. Again....a very nicely documented topic.
I didn't saw any of the markings on it. So I suspect it to be an aftermarket example.
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Various Inlands, Underwoods, I.B.M.s and an NPM
NVBIW, NVWHT, NVBMB, KNSA member Conservator Military Historical Museum Achtmaal U.S. 104th I.D. Timberwolves www.militairhistorischmuseumachtmaal.nl |
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And the last carbine of the Museum, an Inland with folding stock
S/N 5233947 (June '44) Barrel: Underwood 4-43 marked with flaming bomb and P proofmark Z marking on sling
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Various Inlands, Underwoods, I.B.M.s and an NPM
NVBIW, NVWHT, NVBMB, KNSA member Conservator Military Historical Museum Achtmaal U.S. 104th I.D. Timberwolves www.militairhistorischmuseumachtmaal.nl |
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Wow, thanks for sharing. Very interesting information. My great uncle was killed in the Ardennes offensive, around the village of Lutrebois, Belgium New years eve 1944. He was in Company L 134th Infantry.
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Hi Rebel,
Thanks for your reaction and sharing the information on your great uncle. You're always welcome to visit our museum in Achtmaal in the mid-south of the netherlands (dedicated to the U.S. 104th). We have lots of personal gear and accessories to see in the museum. gr. Patrick
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Various Inlands, Underwoods, I.B.M.s and an NPM
NVBIW, NVWHT, NVBMB, KNSA member Conservator Military Historical Museum Achtmaal U.S. 104th I.D. Timberwolves www.militairhistorischmuseumachtmaal.nl |
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