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    Posted: Jun 27 2018 at 7:54pm
Hello, trying to source this green ink stock marking in bottom flat of lower stock.  Other markings point to IP SG.  One source said they seen similar for Overton stocks.




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Could that be IP613 ?

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M1Seeker, there is a post on this forum discussing the same markings, I can't seem to find it but it is on here somewhere. Hopefully someone will post the link to that thread.
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Do an advanced search.
Keyword "Julian"
Where it says 6 months or... change to older
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Julian
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Thanks I found the post but does not give any info or pics. 
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M1seeker, seek and ye shall find.

http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/saginaw-sg_topic1359_page1.html?KW=Julian

There are few others.


What i see is 17643
What we believe that means is the 176th day of 1943.
Does the IP stock have a crossed cannons cartouche? Is it IP or S' G'
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Here is one of the posts that I was trying to find.
http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/saginaw-sg_topic1359_page1.html?KW=julian
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Originally posted by New2brass New2brass wrote:

M1seeker, seek and ye shall find.

http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/saginaw-sg_topic1359_page1.html?KW=Julian

There are few others.


What i see is 17643
What we believe that means is the 176th day of 1943.
Does the IP stock have a crossed cannons cartouche? Is it IP or S' G'

You guys are the best, tons of marks to view now thanks.

IR-IP in sling well 
S'G' crossed cannons on stock
Circle P on grip bottom  

I will add the pics now.
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Sorry for many posts, new to this forum concepts.

IR-IP in sling well is faint and only make it out with some oil, does not show up in pics good at all.  But the stamping is there.

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Is there a flaming bomb in the sling well? Sometimes hard to see or worn away. I cut or oval cut?
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Is this Stock oval or I-cut ?
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It was a oval cut. I noticed on the Gunboards forum where he found the info he was looking for from a recent for sale ad on the CMP site. It showed a picture of an S'G' stock with the same type of ink stamp in the slide well.
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Yes it's oval and can't make out the flaming bomb.  I'll look again, what is normal location?  IR-IP is in proper top right of well flat.

Underwood barrel 2-43  #176XXXX

Also curious about the 3 M's on pistol grip, they are carved in looks like.

I can add more photos after I edit them smaller if wanted.

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Here's another one for reference. Stock is different but some of it is simliar and it should show the location on the barrel bomb. However, CCNL 374 talks about oval cut stocks marked IR-IP with no flaming bomb.

http://uscarbinecal30.com/forum/featured-carbine-irwin-pedersen-1775265_topic2605.html

The rear sight on yours is marked with an S on one side. How is the other side marked? Is the leaf marked?

Is the barrel band swivel marked?
Is the front sight marked?
How about the trigger?
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Ok I'm wondering now if the metals are refinished?  THe rolled stamping US CARBINE CAL. 30 M1 is ok but the E on CARBINE and 1 on M1 is very faint.  Barrel stamp is great and IP and ser# great.  Was this seen before?  The reciever color looks slightly different then recoil plate.

Barrel band is UP
Front sight marked 3
Rear site RP or PP ?
No trigger mark I can find but safety is IPW
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