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    Posted: Oct 09 2019 at 2:52pm
OK....i have to ask....saw this and was "perplexed" as to the reason for X G 9 as the serial number....it is a nice clean rifle though....
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"This is a incredible condition Inland Carbine! My understanding of this carbine is that this is a prototype of the production carbines that were to be produced for the invasion of the Japanese home islands hence the "XG9"- Experimental Government Style 9"



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It is a Presentation gun. Some are worth more than others and some may have issues so know what you are looking at before buying. If you have interest in it PM me and I can fill you in better.

Thank you for sharing it, the club is looking records of any presentation carbines or any special carbines. 10 points added for reporting.



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Presentation X Series Carbines


Approx: X series serial numbers:
X1 - X100
XA1 - XA100
XB1 - XB100* (possible plus 1)
XC1 - XC100
XD1 - XD100
XE1 - XE100
XF1 - XF100
XG1 - XG100


Ruth's WarBaby, page 359 states that the 400 Carbines in XC thru XG were not charged to the Gov as these were all presented to various Inland and other General Motors employees, subs, suppliers, military personnel and other Gov officials in appreciation of their contributions to Inland's War effort.

NOTE: 
(Might be a Typo here because I count 500 Carbines between XC-XG).

On another Forum there was a sighting report, but no follow up of:

3-8-15
"Spotted XG 15 at the Fletcher N. Carolina today. In unfired condition. It is an M2."

Also in that same post the OP was asking for information about Inland XC 43 which was presented to the OP's GrandFather.
It was verified it was presented to his GrandFather, who was a purchasing agent for Delco-Remy, a GM subsidiary:
J T  Delancey, Anderson, Ind. 9-29-44. 

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That is surely a minty presentation Inland. Great find! I noticed there is a cross cannons acceptance stamp on the right side of the stock. I was of the understanding that presentation guns didn't have such stamps because they were never accepted by the government?
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Wouldn’t a legit presentation carbine not have an ordinance cross cannons acceptance stamp?
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Originally posted by GotSnlB28 GotSnlB28 wrote:

I noticed there is a cross cannons acceptance stamp on the right side of the stock. I was of the understanding that presentation guns didn't have such stamps because they were never accepted by the government?


I also was under that impression.
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Agree all,

Would the Gov accept/stamp the stock on a carbine it wasn't receiving?
One it wasn't being charged $ for ?
One with Chromed or High Polished Blue finish..... Not being to Mil Spec Finish.

SEE:
Standard Products EX. 29

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I suspect the ordnance stamp is just one of the problems with it. Does the front sight look like it's been off to anyone else? It could be a scratch from about anything though.

It's a fantastic background story, that being special M1 carbines made for the invasion of Japan. Somewhere somehow some pigs must be getting ready for takeoff!
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Originally posted by Why Carbines? Why Carbines? wrote:

I suspect the ordnance stamp is just one of the problems with it. Does the front sight look like it's been off to anyone else? It could be a scratch from about anything though.

It's a fantastic background story, that being special M1 carbines made for the invasion of Japan. Somewhere somehow some pigs must be getting ready for takeoff!


Are you referring to picture 10? If so I think it's in the photo and not a scratch, as the line continues down the barrel when the picture is enlarged. It does appear the pin staking may be disturbed.

For sure, the story is bogus... How does it go, buy the rifle, not the story :)
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The later Inland presentations they scrounged for parts. 
Some used rejected parts that had issues or reworked.

My concern is not the front pin staking, considering the mint condition

As for the story, Sellers sometimes have little knowledge and parrot what they are told. Sometimes this info comes from old internet posts or auctions. It is an endless cycle.
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Right, the thing at the top of my mind would be receiver ring, if I were purchasing it. It does not strike me as a put together rifle.
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Even if the acceptance stamp was somehow original to the carbine, which seems unlikely, it certainly creates suspicion as to it's originality.
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Sure would be nice to get a look at the receiver ring. Stock has happy switch cutout.
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does not pass the smell test IMHO.
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I see it sold. Some people believe all of the stories, but there is some good points about it too. My guess is that it will never see the light of day again, but I could always be wrong there.
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Anyone recall the asking price of XG 9 ?

I messed up linking in the other X models.....
Sorry for any confusion.
Intent was for comparison, but that didn't seem to go so swell.
Just cluttered up the post.

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Asking price was $6000
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A little birdy told me it did not sell, it is no longer for sale.
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Maybe an M2? Doesn’t show the full receiver ring. Stock has the cutout and ad says is filled with M2 style parts.

Edited by Jt22453 - Oct 11 2019 at 4:53am
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