Inland s/n 373872

John also collects carbines, and has a very impressive rack of about 10 early carbines & lots of Winchesters (he a big Winchester fan).

Brand: Inland s/n 373872 (June '43)

Barrel marking: Inland MFG General Motors 5-43 rebarreled by AI (Dutch arsenal Artillerie Inrichtingen) 1-64

New sling with "knip hier" marking (so Dutch)

SG (Saginaw) marking underside of operating rod

KR marking on leftside of hammer

E.I. marking on backside of magazine release

W (Winchester) marking under the hammer spring

Inland marking leftside of trigger group

IO 2 marking on bolt lug never saw this before, I wonder what it could mean

bolt lug shape

black recoil plate

It looks like there is a new stock on this carbine. It is quite light in colour, looks like birch (yellowish colour).

As a serious collector I follow the prices of course.

A Winchester quickly rises to 850 euro's.

But sometimes you're lucky because a sport-shooter ends his licence and has to get rid of his weapons quickly, because his licence ends that specific month. Got my 1943 I.B.M. (my 1st .30M1) for only 100 euro's. 

With Garands you quickly have a 2000 euro's price tag. 1903s go for around 1000.

An original 1911A1 quickly goes for 1000 euro's.

Last year I was lucky, got my a 1918 Eddystone P17 for only 200 euro because the sport-shooter had to get rid of it.

But anyway, some other Dutch guy may tell you differently of course. This is my personal experience.

Having strict laws regarding weapons also has its benefits: nobody is allowed to have them, so the prices drop.

Here I'm at the range with my .43 I.B.M. Won many matches with it. It has a replaced unmarked (probably non WW2) barrel and is serialized number by number by hand on the leftside of the receiver. Looks like a rebuilt one. More on this one here: http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/Forum/ibm-30m1-sn-3675209_topic1159_post2582.html?KW=#2582

Your mention of the licensing made me do some light research on ownership in the Netherlands and the application process, interesting reading.

Nothing wrong with strict rules as long as they are applied evenly, we should try that here sometime. But we have no time to enforce laws…we’re too busy writing new ones LOL.

Sorry, no intention of getting political, just joking around. Thank you again for the great information. A day is wasted if you don’t learn something, and you fulfilled that for me today!

The Civilian Marksmanship Program (theCMP.org) typically has Garands for sale, both by direct sale and auctions. Direct sales of “Rack, Field or Service” grades can run from $650-1050 or slightly more. You are allowed to purchase up to 8 per calendar year if available. They take the very interesting rifles and put them on the auction. There are 8 auctions active as I write this, with lower bids around $1000 and some already exceeding $4000 for an unissued model. Personal sales of the Garand are all over the place, but I’d say most run in the $1000-1500+ range.

The CMP is also selling off, by random number generator sale, USGI 1911A1’s from $1050-1250 in those same 3 grades. My numbers may be off here but I think there were about 80,000 in storage, and the Secretary of Defense had authorized CMP to sell them. They were supposed to provide CMP with 10,000 per year to sell, but they have been very secretive about what’s been released so far. Members are limited to one 1911 lifetime at present. I was lucky enough have my number come up, and I got a nice Remington Rand Field Grade for $1250, with matching slide and frame. It’s like that mysterious box of chocolates, you never know what you’re gonna get. Again CMP took some of the nicest examples to auction, where the prices skyrocketed.

The 30M1 Carbine is a completely different animal, almost impossible to find one for less than $1000, and nice/rarer examples routinely run into the thousands. This is a novice observation, but those with import marks bring considerably less than those without. All firearms must be import marked since the Gun Control Act (GCA) of 1968.  Even so, import Carbines in larger quantities don’t come around that often from what I’ve seen, and sell out quickly when they do. I got one of the Italian imports through Midway, a nice (about 1/2 matching parts) Winchester for $1450. Some of the nicer ones sold for north of $2k, and they sold out the same day they were listed as I recall. Someone will correct me I’m sure, but if I had to put an average price on a Carbine Mixmaster, I’d guess about $1500.

Sorry to say I know less than nothing about the Krag, anything I’d say would be pure speculation.

There’s an incredible wealth of information here, so I’m sure others with far more experience than me will chime in on pricing of these beautiful firearms.

I’ve been a Smith & Wesson revolver collector for years, there’s an old saying in that community that likely applies here. Did I pay too much, or did I just buy it too soon?

But you can buy an Italian BM59 for around 1000.....it shoots great/better but its not the real deal of course....

Excuse me for going off-topic now (sorry about that). Here's the picture of the early 

'42 S&W Victory I just got, its serial dates it to march '42 so just before ordnance took over and started with simplifying the finish+grips. Above is the '44 Ithaca

*EDIT NOTE* cannot use special character in file name. (&) ampersand removed

Didn't knew how to get the bolt out/in.......week later I came back, now prepared.....if you know how to do it the bolt goes in/out quite easy, but in a very special turning motion.