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Have you used the Extreme Cavitator in any animals yet? I did purchase a box from Underwood. Midway USA has the bullets for sale in case you were not aware. From their reviews I’m thinking it would drive thru any hog bones.
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I've not stepped-off into exotic ammo. A FMJ or RNSP dispatches anything I shoot with the carbine. I am no longer a serious hunter and most of my shooting is coffee-cans at 25-yards anymore.Big smile I will eliminate a yard-varmint on occasion, but my 9MM M1 takes care of most of those.

Some folks shoot lead projectiles without issue, most folks avoid it. Some .308 projectiles simply won't work due to action dimensions. The vast majority would also recommend that you stay away from anybody's steel-case ammo.

Lots of tutorials on disassembly/assembly out there. Get that thing apart, see what you have and enjoy!
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Re: spare parts I.e. firing pin, Recoil Spring, extractor, ejector, etc: are USGI parts needed or are Fulton Armory new parts plug n play? My M1 has two Inland mags. Are the Inlands picky on after market mags? Thx
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Originally posted by kwesi1 kwesi1 wrote:

Ok. I get the shimming concept. I need to watch the vidro’s On disassembling the M1 and removing & stripping the bolt. BTW: do we have a dedicated reloading forum?


http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/safety-accuracy-shooting-ammunition-care-and-maintenance_forum54.html

If there is enough interest we can add a subforum and move pertinent posts there.

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Originally posted by kwesi1 kwesi1 wrote:

Re: spare parts I.e. firing pin, Recoil Spring, extractor, ejector, etc: are USGI parts needed or are Fulton Armory new parts plug n play? My M1 has two Inland mags. Are the Inlands picky on after market mags? Thx


USGI is always the best option for spare parts, with that said Fulton Armory is a reputable company and there should be no issues using their parts. Don't know 1st hand about aftermarket magazines, but many on here swear by the Korean made 15 rounders.
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W5USMC: thank you. I’ve been searching for USGI parts. I haven’t yet found a source that carries a good inventory.
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It will take some time to become savvy on what’s genuine and what’s not. It’s easy to find out-of-spec and fake parts. Once you build your knowledge base, you can even find surplus parts on places like ebay. Genuine USGI carbine parts are fairly plentiful. Your immediate need as spares may be limited to a fresh USGI spec. main-spring and bolt internals like a firing-pin, extractor, spring and plunger. Once you pull that bolt apart, you will discover how easy it is for those little bolt parts to run away and hide.

Just take your time, learn what you can and don't get caught-up in purchasing things you may never need.


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Originally posted by kwesi1 kwesi1 wrote:

Re: spare parts I.e. firing pin, Recoil Spring, extractor, ejector, etc: are USGI parts needed or are Fulton Armory new parts plug n play? My M1 has two Inland mags. Are the Inlands picky on after market mags? Thx

Welcome to the forum.  This is the place to be to learn all about M1 Carbines!

I have had good luck buying parts from Fulton Armory.  I also bought my USGI Bolt Assembly/Disassembly tool from them.  I would highly recommend the tool if your plan on taking your bolt apart for inspection and cleaning.

I have also bought some parts from Amherst Depot and from private sellers on the CMP "For Sale" forum.



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I simply don’t have issues with mags. I have the recent manufacture Korean mags, various USGI mags and mags that I have no idea who made them and they all work. One thing you may want to consider are 5-round mags. Some locales limit hunting-mags to 5.
DO NOT purchase a Universal 4-5 round plastic mag....they don’t fit. 5-round mags do turn up, but usually at 2X the cost of 15-rounders. 5-rounders make the little gun even easier to store and carry.
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I'll echo what floydthecat said about magazines.  I shoot my Rock-Ola on a regular basis.  I shoot Remington UMC 110 gr. FMJ ammo and have never had a misfire, failure to load or stovepipe.   I use Korean 15 round mags and they perform flawlessly.  I also like the fact that when the last round is fired, the mag "locks" the bolt open to let you know you are empty.

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Thanks for the suggestions, links and guidance! No magazine restrictions to hunt hogs or coyotes in TX. I’m ready to purchase the bolt tool but why the disparity in the price? Sarai is the lowest non USGI @$22 while other’s up to $40. I’ve been on EBay but it’s limited especially new old stock. One seller offering “new USGI” recoil springs but I suspect they are after maket. Hmmm. I’ll call Fulton and the others.
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Hey Kwesi1, welcome to the forum.  Also a newbie here, also in DFW area.  Thanks to your questions, I learned a bunch more today . . .  thank you and welcome!
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The USGI bolt tools will be more expensive. Commercial bolt tools have came down in price. Purchase the $22 one and you will likely never wear it out. Learn how to use it, be careful with it and you will be fine. Spare pawls turn-up occasionally and that’s about all you can break on it.
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Numrich Gun Parts has a maintenance tool kit that includes bolt, trigger spring, and piston wrench tools. Their part # is 928640 and list for $31.45.
The bolt tool is commercially made and works just fine.
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Originally posted by Paul1262 Paul1262 wrote:

Numrich Gun Parts has a maintenance tool kit that includes bolt, trigger spring, and piston wrench tools. Their part # is 928640 and list for $31.45.
The bolt tool is commercially made and works just fine.


That's a great price for all three. I would hope to never need a piston-nut wrench and I think the trigger-spring tool is a PITA to use, but for that price, I'd take the package. A boy never has too many toys in his chest, whether you use them or not.

I think we need to emphasize here for the newbie....a gas piston should not be tinkered with. If it's stuck, soaking in the correct lubricant will usually free it up. "If it ain't broke....don't fix it"!
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Paul1262: this newbie appreciates all the tips!
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More than 1 gas cylinder has been cracked by an over-tightened castle nut. Thank goodness I picked-up on that early. I am one of those guys that likes to check all the lug-nuts for tightness. This nut is better left alone.
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New2brass, thank you for the instructional link and clippings.
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Update: I picked her up tonight. My RO said it was fine to fire it and offered to do the first 5 rounds so I said ok. I then fired about 7 more. He said he believed it saw a lot of action. But said it needed a new recoil spring. I think he based that on the ease of drawing the bolt back. No pics yet but I noticed the following markings:

Barrel behind front sight: Underwood 10-44
Front sight: EU
Under rear sight: IN
Above rear receiver screw: Standard Products
Under butt stock: Z ( I think the stock was replaced )
Barrel band: SI
Underneath the trigger guard: 1
Barrel: Possibly an O?
Rear sight: I.R. Co.
Trigger housing: Right Side: M (underscore) to the right of the safety.

So no IN barrel! I did remove cosmoline from a few areas (front sight and inside the trigger guard).   I obviously have a mix-master (Frankenstein).

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