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    Posted: Jan 11 2018 at 7:46am
I recently picked up an IBM carbine with the serial range 39497XX. it is in excellent shape, with a really clean stock and hand guard, with just one small repair area near the butt plate, a barrel and receiver that looks recently re-parked, and parts that all seem correct. bore is shiny, although i still need to check muzzle erosion. the one thing that dose not match is the flat bolt ?  does anyone know if its possible for the flat bolt to be original?  thanks all for any input, mike.
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Welcome to the forum.  Flat bolts were predecessors to the round but there may have been some later production rifles with round.  Seems like they went to round bolts to cut down on production time.  Others will be able to confirm or clarify this.

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Is the bolt blued or parkerized?
your carbine was one of the last 20k made. I would expect to see a round bolt on it, However it is quite possible that a late carbine could have a flat bolt.
You mention that it looks reparked, which if this is the case it might be hard to determine if any of the parts are original.
A great many collectors have corrected carbines over the years.
 
Pictures always help. A few questions, Does it have a bayonet lug? flip sight or an adjustable sight.
Is the safety a push type or a rotary/flip type?
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it has all the early parts i.e. two rivet hand guard, type 2 barrel band, push button safety, and early flip sight. also, it doesnt have any arsenal rebuild markings on the stock, just a visible B in the sling well and a cannon cartouche on right side of stock. also, there is an N stamped on the bottom of the pistol grip.
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also, the barrel is not dated, and has a P proof mark 4" from the handguard. all parts seem to be coded to IBM.
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i tried uploading pictures, and it said they were to big?
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Mike,
Look under the (Registration Help /Rules/ Tutorials/New Member Introductions) section of this forum. There are good instructions on posting pics.

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I resize to 720 pix with the "Maintain aspect ration" checked. Here's the link to instructions.   http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/picture-editing-on-pc-with-paint_topic2820.html
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Mike, you can email me and i will install in your file.

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As to how you use the word "early" in context to parts.....

With the exception of Winchester and Inland all carbine contracts were cancelled in 4-44, though rockola was permitted an extra month for Gov to recoup loses.
IBM delivered carbines late 43 to early 44

In that short time several changes were made. As mentioned above it was one of the last 20k that IBM produced.

The type 2 band some would say is a late feature or transitional. I would also expect to see this on your carbine if as left factory.
The 2 rivet hand guard is expected.

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