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    Posted: Jan 04 2021 at 12:31pm
Hello everyone, 

I'm Craig from Fort Bragg, NC. Currently an Aviation CW2 flying the HH-60M. I recently purchased a Winchester Type 2 Spring tube receiver sn 1125XXX that I'm learning about. My goal is to build a complete carbine that would be representative of a WW2 era carbine. My grandfather was a Tank Destroyer crewman, he carried the carbine so I'm doing this build in his memory. I'm looking forward to learning a lot about the M1 Carbine!

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Hi Craig and welcome to the forum from New Mexico!

Can you post pictures of your receiver so we can see what you have to start with?
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Hello and welcome from the other side of NC! You have come to the right place to learn a lot. 
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Hey Craig,
First let me say thank you for your service and now a hearty welcome to the forum.  Like others have said, looking forward to seeing some pics.  I have not attempted to build a carbine from the receiver up but I'm sure some on here have.  I've heard that parts can run up the cost when piecing one together.  Have you considered getting a "corrected", ready to go carbine?  Either way, there are great folks on this forum to help with your endeavor. 
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Welcome Craig,
I'd also like to Thank you for your service.
Good luck on your build. Beware of Repro parts. Reach out and get opinions before buying. Consider listing WTB's here. There is no such thing as a Silly question.

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Welcome to the forum Chief!
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Originally posted by jackp1028 jackp1028 wrote:

Hi Craig and welcome to the forum from New Mexico!

Can you post pictures of your receiver so we can see what you have to start with?
I certainly will. I'll get everything I have so far and get it together. I'll post it in the general section in a few days.

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Hey Craig,
First let me say thank you for your service and now a hearty welcome to the forum.  Like others have said, looking forward to seeing some pics.  I have not attempted to build a carbine from the receiver up but I'm sure some on here have.  I've heard that parts can run up the cost when piecing one together.  Have you considered getting a "corrected", ready to go carbine?  Either way, there are great folks on this forum to help with your endeavor. 
 

Hindsight I probably should have just shelled out the money for a complete carbine but, I didn't and i like the challenge. I don't know anything about carbines, except that I've always wanted on and my grandfather carried one. I have since learned WRA parts are expensive. Oh well, I'm in it now!

Originally posted by painter777 painter777 wrote:

Welcome Craig,
I'd also like to Thank you for your service.
Good luck on your build. Beware of Repro parts. Reach out and get opinions before buying. Consider listing WTB's here. There is no such thing as a Silly question.

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Thank you! I will certainly keep an eye out for reproduction parts. 

Originally posted by W5USMC W5USMC wrote:

Welcome to the forum Chief!

Thank you!
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Welcome from western NC!  If I were a betting man, I’ll bet you grab-up another functional carbine (or two, or three) to shoot/enjoy while you’re taking the time to locate and purchase just the right parts for that early WRA.

I have an early Underwood “receiver only” with original already in-place rear flip sight that I bought to build 3 carbines ago.  Always on the hunt for the right parts for it.  Good earlier parts take patience to obtain, but it is a labor of love.

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Here's a start for reference material if you don't have it:
Also I like "The U.S. .30 Caliber Gas Operated Carbines: A Shop Manual" by Jerry Kuhnhausen. I'm sure some others with more "gunsmithing" experience will make some suggestions. Midway and Amazon have it.
Looking forward to seeing your progress.
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Welcome. My grandfather was in the 805th Tank Destroyers, also what got me into carbines!
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Originally posted by Horrible_Aim Horrible_Aim wrote:

Welcome. My grandfather was in the 805th Tank Destroyers, also what got me into carbines!
Mine was C Co 771st Tank Destroyer BN! Very cool!
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" If I were a betting man, I’ll bet you grab-up another functional carbine (or two, or three) to shoot/enjoy while you’re taking the time to locate and purchase just the right parts for that early WRA."
I don't know about betting, but seems like good advice.  Nothing like having a working one in your hands, and get familiar with the parts and variations.   I found filling out the data sheet was very helpful learning experience.

Re: Tank Destroyers - Former owner of my house and close neighbor was in the 601 - North Africa, Italy, Europe. 
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Graig, welcome to the forum. Show us some photos of your carbine and join the party. 

I'm retired USN and in the 70's flew in Sikorsky H-3s. In the late 90's I lived north of Fort Bragg and frequently visited the Commissary and Exchange there. I miss the sandhills of NC.  On second thought, no.LOL
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Ok guys here is what I'm working with so far! Let me know what you think!
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Looks like a really good start. Needing a barrel band and a few small things.
Noticed the L marked Frt sight, not sure if it's real but what's up with the color? Has it been painted ?

I hope it all comes together easy and fills your need.

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Been there, done that; as they say.

Dad always wanted a Winchester, so I built him one, starting from a 572xxxx receiver out about a year ago.
NOS late barrel assy acquired from fellow member. Local GS did the chamber finish ream/headspacing.
Not all correct for serial, with late barrel and long channel stock but he is proud of it and that is all that matters to me. It was fun but not a cheap endeavor.




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Nice collection so far- have most of the expensive parts in hand- not an easy thing in today’s carbine market. I haven’t built one up from a receiver yet- looking to hear about your experience.
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Originally posted by painter777 painter777 wrote:

Looks like a really good start. Needing a barrel band and a few small things.
Noticed the L marked Frt sight, not sure if it's real but what's up with the color? Has it been painted ?

I hope it all comes together easy and fills your need.

Congrats,
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I have no reason to believe the Lyman manufactured Winchester front sight is fake. It was packed with cosmoline. I purchased that particular piece from Riverbank Armory because from my research it's correct for the barrel. 

Originally posted by ncin1911 ncin1911 wrote:

Been there, done that; as they say.

Dad always wanted a Winchester, so I built him one, starting from a 572xxxx receiver out about a year ago.
NOS late barrel assy acquired from fellow member. Local GS did the chamber finish ream/headspacing.
Not all correct for serial, with late barrel and long channel stock but he is proud of it and that is all that matters to me. It was fun but not a cheap endeavor.

Mine will be the same way but I always wanted a Winchester. I was lucky to get the parts I did. The barrel is early for the receiver and the stock is not an I cut high wood, but it is Winchester and it's what I was able to find. I'm taking it to my armorer to have the barrel put on and receiver and headspace checked next week sometime. All parts are ordered and on the way. I'm about $1700 in so far, plus what the gunsmith will charge me. 

Originally posted by Bigheavy31 Bigheavy31 wrote:

Nice collection so far- have most of the expensive parts in hand- not an easy thing in today’s carbine market. I haven’t built one up from a receiver yet- looking to hear about your experience.
 
Other than the front sight which i got from a retailer. it was a lot easier to get the parts than I thought. The guy who sold me the receiver had some extra WRA parts, he introduced me to another collector friend of his who has some parts, it went on like that until I had all my parts. The community has been a great help. I'm very appreciative. I did a 1903 build from a receiver which was really cool to do. This has been fun so far and I hope to have it functional by next week!
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Originally posted by palmettopilot palmettopilot wrote:

Originally posted by painter777 painter777 wrote:

Looks like a really good start. Needing a barrel band and a few small things.
Noticed the L marked Frt sight, not sure if it's real but what's up with the color? Has it been painted ?

I hope it all comes together easy and fills your need.

Congrats,
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I have no reason to believe the Lyman manufactured Winchester front sight is fake. It was packed with cosmoline. I purchased that particular piece from Riverbank Armory because from my research it's correct for the barrel. 


@palmettopilot
Sorry to bring the bad news but RB sells fake parts. 

Here is one of many discussions.
http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/ebay-seller-legit_topic4593.html
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Originally posted by palmettopilot palmettopilot wrote:

I have no reason to believe the Lyman manufactured Winchester front sight is fake. It was packed with cosmoline. I purchased that particular piece from Riverbank Armory because from my research it's correct for the barrel. 

You are aware of the fact that Riverbank is notorious for selling reproduction parts right?
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