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    Posted: May 27 2020 at 11:43am
Hi all,

Many thanks for allowing me to join your forum. I live in the UK, so are only allowed bolt or Straight Pull in anything over .22WMR.

I thought I would never be able to get my hands on an M1 Carbine, but a batch came in via Italy and I was able to get my hands on a lovely late 1940's  period correct M1A1 Carbine.

Converted to Straight Pull, but still lovely to shoot.

She's Inland made, s/n 6386222. Barrel 44 and Inland marked. The Sn was stamped under all the dirt and grease in the barrel channel, I've been told this is typical of Israeli issue Carbines?

Earlier milled bolt

The stock has all the correct IO markings and foundry markings to the metalwork

MR stamp on the left  hand side (Mount Rainer Ordnance Depot rebuilt post war), so the usual mods, type 3 band, turning safety and type 3 rear sight.

The trigger block is Underwood type 2.

All in all, very pleased, it's in reasonably good order for it's it's age, with no wood splits, a decent bore and no corrosion, with plenty of finish left.

I'll post pics...

Wonderful to finally have a Carbine!

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Welcome to the forum. Looking forward to seeing some pictures.
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What’s the “legal” method to convert to straight-pull over there?

I found a picture of a carbine converted to bolt action a year-or-so ago and circulated it here on the forum. I think the slide was bobbed and a bolt handle added to the right lug? 
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Hello and Welcome Clark,
Is this the one you just got to shoot in the last week or two?

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If piston modifications are allowed you can add washers to the hold the piston back further or have a non movable piston made. these used to be available commercially. Think it is in the NLs if anyone wants to look it up.

Some have made it so the slide stays further back so the piston does not hit the slide. The problem is that piston hammers the nut and the gas chamber is prone to cracking. So if doing the piston above it must not move.

There was another thread or two on this subject. 
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Originally posted by floydthecat floydthecat wrote:

What’s the “legal” method to convert to straight-pull over there?

I found a picture of a carbine converted to bolt action a year-or-so ago and circulated it here on the forum. I think the slide was bobbed and a bolt handle added to the right lug? 

All they have done is depress the piston in its carrier and weld it in position.

The rifle cycles like butter and shoots beutifully, it's such a nice calibre...
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Originally posted by New2brass New2brass wrote:

If piston modifications are allowed you can add washers to the hold the piston back further or have a non movable piston made. these used to be available commercially. Think it is in the NLs if anyone wants to look it up.

Some have made it so the slide stays further back so the piston does not hit the slide. The problem is that piston hammers the nut and the gas chamber is prone to cracking. So if doing the piston above it must not move.

There was another thread or two on this subject. 
Here is one


Thanks for the information, interesting read. The piston has to be made completely inoperable to be legal here, even this is somewhat debatable from a legal position here ... I say life's too bloody short to worry!
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Originally posted by painter777 painter777 wrote:

Hello and Welcome Clark,
Is this the one you just got to shoot in the last week or two?

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Hi Charlie, it certainly is!
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Makes me want to keep a couple of spare barrels lying around, even one with a cracked gas cylinder for “future” modifications, desired or otherwise.
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Welcome to the forum.  Really enjoy hearing about rules and regulations in other countries.  Interesting modification.  Looking forward to seeing the pics.  Thanks for sharing.
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Welcome,  I am a new member to the forums as well and I cannot soak up enough of the knowledge these young timers are spewing on this forum  Wish I would have known about this place earlier.  
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Many thanks for the warm welcome guys, I usually hang out over on Milsurps, but the depth of Carbine knowledge here is staggering!

Just about any questions I could have are in your excellent knowledge library...

Hope I can contribute in a small way too. Here's a few pics. Post War NOS  M2 stock restored for occasionally swapping out....
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Originally posted by W5USMC W5USMC wrote:

Nice, looks like a beautiful shooting range.

Cheers mate, it's an old RAF range my club has access too, Covid19 restrictions, so max of two at a time....
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Originally posted by W5USMC W5USMC wrote:

Nice, looks like a beautiful shooting range.
Hear hear.  
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Slight issue with the NOS M2 woodwork, the hand guard kept popping off after 3/4 shots, I couldn't figure out what was wrong until I had a dig about among my spares and found another beech top hand guard, the one I fitted is about 5mm too short ... and slightly angled at the front...!

So, do I have a very rare top hand guard for an experimental carbine that's designed to shoot around very slightly graduated right hand corners!LOL

Or, (more likely) do I have a Friday afternoon, after the pub special!

Replacement works just fine....

 
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It’s been my experience that the USGI hand guards won’t vary enough to matter. Aftermarket guards can vary by as much as 1/4” or more. Commercial copies usually run longer than USGI.
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In my case 1/4" too shortLOL
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Sounds like you got a monday morning handguard! Operator must have still been half asleep!
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