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Gromper
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Posted: Apr 13 2019 at 8:36am |
Hello M1 Carbine collectors,
I'm from Luxemburg/Europe and I've got an IBM M1 Carbine from a garret. It's a leftover from the Battle of the Bulge, from Word War 2, where our Us liberators fought for our country and our freedom.
What is historically verry interesting, there is a note on the rifle showing the name "T5 Stephen BOBKO with his ID 32088848. The same ID is written on the rifle bag.
After some reserches on the internet, I found out, that Stephen BOBKO was born in 1916 in New York, was a plumber and entered military in 1941. Furthermore I found out that Stephen BOBKO could have been member of the 79th Field Artillery Regiment during Word War 2.
My question, is it possible to obtain more informations about Steven BOBKO? Which exact unit he fought, where he fought in WW2, did he survived, is he still alive, ... ?
It would be an honor to sent him or his family some pictures of his old M1 Carbine he fought with in Luxemburg/Europe.
Sorry for my english and the mistakes I wrote, I'm not used to write in english ;) |
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m1a1fan
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Greetings and welcome to the club. If a member of the military is deceased, you can request their records by mail but it isn't free. Also, you'll get the redacted version which is just another way of saying you won't get everything. I think only family members can get everything. I've ordered military records in the past and it costs US $50-75. Sometimes you get a few pages, sometimes way more. Either way it is well worth it if doing research. The tag shows more information, but it is difficult to read. It looks like it reads R/A and then numbers. Perhaps the carbine's serial number? Adjustable rear sights were used by IBM later in production. Is the barrel marked and/or dated? Are there any markings on the stock? Can you post a full picture of the other side of the stock? Search for his name in the national archive: Generic search for Bobko |
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OAMAAM68
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Hello Gromper,
VERY nice looking IBM !! Our National Archives shows the enlistment record for Stephen Bobko SN 32088848: U.S., World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 Name: Stephen Bobko Birth Year: 1916 Race: White, citizen (White) Nativity State or Country: New York State of Residence: New York County or City: New York Enlistment Date: 29 Apr 1941 [Apparently, he enlisted in the US Army on his birthday in 1941.] Enlistment State: New York Enlistment City: New York City Branch: Grade: Private Grade Code: Private Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men) Source: Civil Life Education: 1 year of college Civil Occupation: Plumbers, gas fitters, and steam fitters Marital status: Single, without dependents Height: 67 Weight: 193 SOURCE: National Archives and Records Administration. Electronic Army Serial Number Merged File, 1938-1946 [Archival Database]; ARC: 1263923. World War II Army Enlistment Records; Records of the National Archives and Records Administration, Record Group 64; National Archives at College Park. College Park, Maryland, U.S.A. Also this direct link: http://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=893&mtch=1&cat=WR26&tf=F&q=32088848&bc=,sl,sd&rpp=10&pg=1&rid=2757720 STEPHEN BOBKO was born 29 April 1916, received Social Security number 111-05-7785 (indicating New York) and, Death Master File says, died 24 May 2003. Research in ZIP Code 11229. 68536170 Source: Social Security Death Master File (public domain). Check Archives.com (fee-based) http://sortedbybirthdate.com/daypages/1916/19160429s.html U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014Name: Stephen BobkoSSN: 111-05-7785 Last Residence: 11229 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA Born: 29 Apr 1916 Died: 24 May 2003 State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951) This Ancestry.com link has more biographical info (probably requires membership in Ancestry): http://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/107280503/person/410182751465/facts?ssrc= I do not see any living relatives of Stephen Bobko but will look further if you want. Semper fi, Bill USN '63-'68 USMC '68-'98 |
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OAMAAM68
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PS: Battle of the Bulge was 16 December 1944 to 25 January 1945. Was the Type 3 adjustable rear sight installed before or after the battle?
Semper fi, Bill |
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New2brass
Moderator Group Dan Pinto, Photo Editor Joined: Nov 29 2015 Location: CT Status: Offline Points: 4656 |
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Very slim chance replace stateside. Probably after the battle |
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OAMAAM68
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Dan,
NLs 272-1, 281-3, 323-2, 345-4 and 382-14 all address adjustable sight installations. However, I don't see whether the adjustable sights installed stateside by unit armorers beginning in mid-1944 and later in Europe by field installation teams were T-2 milled, T-3 stamped or a mix of both. They are all just referred to as adjustable rear sights. I had guessed most were T-2 milled. SA made some 330 thousand milled adjustable sights between January and July 1945. NL 382-14 I have in my notes, a 2012 post by BQ: "When the adjustable rear sight was put into production both the milled and stamped varieties had been standardized so one did not come before the other. I[n] actual observations Inland used the milled version first, in the high 4.9 to low 5.0 million range, followed by the stamped version roughly 40,000 serial numbers later. IBM on the other hand started with the stamped version and then migrated to using milled adjustable. [emphasis added] On the other end of the spectrum, more milled rear sights show up on late WRA carbines then the stamped version." This IBM carbine was likely updated by an Army field team in theater during the war and not a post war rebuild at FN since it has no T-3 band. The serial number should give us a better idea of when this IBM reached the European theater. Semper fi, Bill |
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New2brass
Moderator Group Dan Pinto, Photo Editor Joined: Nov 29 2015 Location: CT Status: Offline Points: 4656 |
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MWO B28-W3 Carbines Cal. .30 M1, M1A1, M1A3; To replace leaf type rear sight with a sight that is adjustable for both windage and elevation is dated 11 Sep 1944.
From memory I believe it addressed both type 2 and type 3 rear sights. So stateside the logistics of it getting to the soldier before the battle is slim. So I bet it was changed in the ETO in the days or months following. The 89th chemical motor division is the earliest report of rear sight upgrade in the ETO. It would seem from the article it was late December 1944 to early January 1945. The CCNL and the article I linked have a common thread, the dedicated research and reporting from Don Hillhouse. One day we may find records of who got replacment sights and when. A few pics of the IBM receiver might clear it up. Might make a nice Featured Carbine? |
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Gromper
Recruit Joined: Apr 13 2019 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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Thank you verry much for all your help and replys, this is a great M1 Carbine forum. I'll try
to get more informations about Stephen Bobko and try to find out in which unit he fought in Europe. On the tag => T5 Stephen Bobko, his ID 32088848 and the rifle serial number 3.75x.xxx. My M1 Carbine has the serial number 3.75x.xxx and normaly hust have a first model rear sight. Thats what my book (US M1 Carbine Wartime Production by Craig Riesch) says. This rifle must have been updated by an army field team (field modification) in theater during the war. Since the war was over, this rifle was lying on an attic and nobody touched or made a mondification on it. Below the markings on the rifle: 1) Rear Sight => I.R.CO 7160060 2) Bolt => AOB / B 3) Barrel => IBM Corp. 11/43 4) Front Sight => POB 5) Barrel Band => KV-B 6) Operating Slide => AOB 7) Trigger Housing => BE-B 8) Hammer => GMB 9) Magazine Catch => EPB 10) Stock => LW-B 11) Recoil Plate => PR-B 12) Handguard => LW-B 13) Oiler => IS As you can se all parts come from IBM!!! If you want a picture from a part of the gun please let me know.
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W5USMC
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Gromper, It appears that you have a really nice IBM, I encourage you to submit a Carbine Club Data Sheet on it. See the link below for info.
http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/Forum/carbine-club-data-sheets_topic26.html |
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Wayne
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ncin1911
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@Gromper; thank you very much for posting that fantastic IBM; you have a great find there! 3.75mil serial would have been flip sight and the stamped adjustable probably field installed as has been stated. From my own IBM research, barrel date is spot on for 3.75mil and IMO assembled within last two weeks of Nov43. Would you post some pictures of the receiver and the rear sight staking please? |
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Smoky 1
Recruit Joined: Dec 22 2018 Location: Weippe, ID Status: Offline Points: 80 |
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What a prize. I have never seen one with that kind of doc. That one is a keeper.
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