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Rustyb
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Posted: Aug 23 2017 at 12:30am |
Bavarian M1 carbine Surprise
First I would like to thank everyone involved with this wonderful
website. Thanks to this website I just
found that I’m the proud of Bavarian/Lower Austria M1 Carbine and have been for many years and
did not know I had it.
It’s a long story but one M1 Carbine I always wanted to own
was a National Postal Meter. About 14
years ago I went to a local gun shop to purchase a M1 Carbine for my young son
to learn hunting skills with me. The
owner of the gun shop was a old friend and pulled out several carbines with a
price range from $350.00 to about $600.00. The high price was for the Postal
Meter. I told my story why I wanted the
Postal Meter Carbine to the owner but told him I could not afford it and went
with the lower cost carbine which I thought was a Inland. I had the owner
install a cheap scope mount and scope while I was there. My son used the
carbine a few times hunting with me but decided he wanted a shotgun and the carbine became a safe queen. About three weeks ago I pulled the carbine
out of the safe to oil and when I turned it over I noticed some strange letters
“LGKNO” and 2646 stamped on the trigger guard. I have cleaned this weapon many times but never noticed the stamping.
I started to research the lettering and ended up here at the Carbine
Collectors Forum. I took the Carbine
apart to inspect the parts, including taking off the scope mount. The first thing I noticed was the carbine was
not an inland but a National Postal Meter.
The owner of the gun shop died years ago and could not ask him how I
ended up with a rifle I could not afford, but think he had a soft side and gave
me the Postal Meter rifle after hearing my story. The following is all the
information I found on the carbine after stripping it down except the internal
trigger parts. I would appreciate and
information on parts I was not able to identify and any other information you
could provide.
National Postal Meter #153XXXX receiver. No marking on left
side (all matching last four serial numbers on parts) manufacture date
1-43/9-43?
Underwood 7-43 ,flaming
bomb, muzzle is original, 5 inches below muzzle on top is a punch mark, no P mark? Skirt is
long. Is this the original barrel??
Intrac Knox TN stamped under barrel near front sight. Imported
1993?.
IS stamped on front sight ?
JM stamped on barrel band, has bayonet lug .(added after rebuild)
IRCO 7160060 rear sight.(added after rebuild)
25 S stamped on bolt lug? Last four numbers of serial number
etched on top of bolt
LGKNO stamped on bottom of trigger housing, 2646 stamped on
trigger guard ,(inventory number). *U* stamped on housing inside mag wall? 13
stamped on bottom ? and number 4 inside housing? Last four serial numbers
stamped on rear of housing (lugs).
M stamped operating slide? Spring inside receiver.
Gas piston unmarked , has original piston housing,
WA dog legged hammer (large)?
BI stamped on trigger?
Recoil plate unmarked.
M (U) stamped mag release?
MI stamped mag catch?
M stamped on top stock with last four serial numbers?.
Bottom stock has last four serial numbers stamped in sling
well over what looks like upside down V? 55 rack number on bottom right. No other
markings on stock. Note-bottom stock is a little lighter then the top stock.
M(U) flip trigger release (updated during rebuild) Stolla Wein leather strap 1ABl5C62. Name KRENN written
inside leather sling.
Oiler SI or IS with O around letters?, still has what smells
like motor oil in it.
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Rustyb
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I forgot to add that the operating slide also has the last four serial numbers stamped on it. Rustyb
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New2brass
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Look inside slide for makers mark.
What type trigger housing? What type stock? Are you sure hammer is dog leg? Pictures, pictures, pictures. |
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W5USMC
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Rustyb,
Welcome to the forum, I think I can help you out with some of your questions. Front sight- could the IS really be SI? If so Inland Bolt- Standard Products Op Slide- where is the marking? inside? could the M really be a W? If so Winchester. Hammer- WA is a post War rebuild mark for a type III hammer, not a "dog leg" are you sure the hammer is type I or II dog leg? And I think your BI marked trigger is Inland. Hopefully someone else will help with the rest of your questions.
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Yep, Agree! Pictures are worth 1000 words.
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Wayne
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Rustyb
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W5USMC Thank you for responding to my post. If you hold the rifle with the barrel up the stamp on the front sight is IS. If you turn it upside down it is SI. On the Op Slide , holding it up towards the muzzle the M is on the outside bottom facing the stock. If you turn it around it could be a W. The W or M has two little lines at the end of the letter, which probably makes it a W. You are right on the Hammer. It is not a dog leg and has a big head. One thing I left out, The Carbine is black with no sign of sandblasting.
Thanks again for your help. I will read the section on posting pictures and see if I can upload them. Rustyb
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New2brass
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Look inside the slide, bet ya it has a mark.-
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Rustyb
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New2brassYou are correct *U* underwood?
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New2brassNice catch, Thanks!
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