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EEM/EFM marked Carbines

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    Posted: Sep 21 2016 at 6:15am
This is a common question so I decided to share the answer here for future inquiries. The question is, who made carbines with the letters EFM or EEM on the receivers?



The answer is Erma's Firearms Manufacturing of Steelville, MO. The F sometimes looks like the letter E due to a period between the initials.

Later receivers they spelled out their name on the left side.


These are covered in detail on our commercial carbine page but not too detailed as they are relatively simple.

http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/carbine_ermas.html

Note the warning about their receivers, they didn't harden them. At all. Not inherently unsafe when they made them but shortened the receiver lifespan to where many are unsafe now due to the metal having become deformed from use over time.

I have several I pulled the receivers and put them in my reference material as unsafe. Parts other than receiver are okay, early ones have many surplus GI parts.

All of their barrels are quality builds using the rear half of a demilled M1 Carbine barrel into which is inserted a 1903A3 barrel machined down to carbine size and inserted into the demil carbine half. See the web page for how they did this. Not unsafe, even Winchester and Inland used this technique for their first carbine prototypes.

Keep in mind if you buy an EFM, it's a used gun. Get it safety inspected by a gunsmith. Soft receivers can alter the headspace making them unsafe.

Jim

P.S. If you have a receiver whose manufacturer you cannot identify post a few pics under a new topic heading and we'll do our best to help ID it. So far we're batting 100%. Even those with no markings or markings removed.
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Talk about a "disposable" carbine! Even the "average" pressure M1 Carbine may destroy the Erma Carbine in less than 12,000 rounds. Without adequate hardening, many of the early "New Inland" bolts self-destructed in less than 1000 rounds.

Sad how these rifles have such a short service life.
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Well, Erma's Mfg existed only in the sixties. Their carbines are still in use today. Everything has a lifespan.

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Better to replace the bad parts or the whole gun than the shooter, no one wants to be buried with no face.
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